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Help me build a Top 10 Facebook App

3 points by myoung8 19y ago

I'm pretty sure this app will have many millions of users. It incorporates video-game-like elements and involves strategic competition which will keep users coming back. I will take care of the front-end design and securing advertising. Willing to split equity 50-50. Email me if you're interested.

palish 19y ago
This sounds a lot like "I have this great idea, please build it and split the result with me 50/50". That doesn't work, sorry.
- gnaritas 19y ago
  No kidding, when will people learn ideas are a dime a dozen and mostly worthless, it's execution of an idea that's valuable. Startups need do'ers, not idea people.
  - staunch 19y ago
    I find those "idea guys" as annoying anyone but I think you guys are being overly critical here. He's saying he'll handle part of the technical work and part of the business end. He wants to carry his weight. Sounds like doing to me.
    - palish 19y ago
      I have to respectfully disagree. He's saying he'll help with the front-end design and advertising. That's only the business part of it. If you don't have technical ability, you really have to put your entire idea out there in detail to get help.
      - staunch 19y ago
        Front-end design = HTML/Javascript/CSS/graphics = business?
        palish 19y ago
        Front end design = design what business service to offer and how it's presented. Html and anything else are implementation details.
        SwellJoe 19y ago
        "Front-end design = HTML/Javascript/CSS/graphics" I'm guessing his idea of "front-end design" is actually more like "I'll mock it up in MS Paint and tell the developer what the explosions ought to sound like by making sounds with my mouth". That's usually what self-appointed business guys bring to the table, in my experience (and I've met lots of them).
vlad 19y ago
http://humanitieslab.stanford.edu/HumanAndMachine/224 http://humanitieslab.stanford.edu/HumanAndMachine/224 The poster does not know how to resize pictures--so what? To say that only programmers can design successful facebook apps is a bit arrogant. I'd say a lot of social users would be able to help come up with an app and make it popular, if they knew how. However, almost always, you need a programmer to write something like this, as well as keep it constantly improving, since one can't just create something in a one-shot deal and think they're done. If you are sure your idea is as good as you say it is, it will be worth it to learn enough programming to make a facebook app yourself, get it popular like you said you will, and when it hits big you'll be able to find tons of developers. There are some business (or art) people who have dabbled in programming and made some contributions, but it is almost always 'hackers' who do. I think the problem people have with this isn't just that the programmer might end up doing more work for a program that might not go anywhere, but that the "opportunity cost" (some business lingo) to work on this delays completion of something else the hacker is already working on (with more equity and closer to fruition.) Finally, hackers would probably rather team up with another hacker (same culture, understanding of computers) than a business guy at our young age.

3 points by myoung8 19y ago

palish 19y ago

This sounds a lot like "I have this great idea, please build it and split the result with me 50/50". That doesn't work, sorry.

gnaritas 19y ago
No kidding, when will people learn ideas are a dime a dozen and mostly worthless, it's execution of an idea that's valuable. Startups need do'ers, not idea people.
- staunch 19y ago
  I find those "idea guys" as annoying anyone but I think you guys are being overly critical here. He's saying he'll handle part of the technical work and part of the business end. He wants to carry his weight. Sounds like doing to me.
  - palish 19y ago
    I have to respectfully disagree. He's saying he'll help with the front-end design and advertising. That's only the business part of it. If you don't have technical ability, you really have to put your entire idea out there in detail to get help.
    - staunch 19y ago
      Front-end design = HTML/Javascript/CSS/graphics = business?
      - palish 19y ago
        Front end design = design what business service to offer and how it's presented. Html and anything else are implementation details.
      - SwellJoe 19y ago
        "Front-end design = HTML/Javascript/CSS/graphics" I'm guessing his idea of "front-end design" is actually more like "I'll mock it up in MS Paint and tell the developer what the explosions ought to sound like by making sounds with my mouth". That's usually what self-appointed business guys bring to the table, in my experience (and I've met lots of them).

vlad 19y ago

http://humanitieslab.stanford.edu/HumanAndMachine/224 http://humanitieslab.stanford.edu/HumanAndMachine/224 The poster does not know how to resize pictures--so what? To say that only programmers can design successful facebook apps is a bit arrogant. I'd say a lot of social users would be able to help come up with an app and make it popular, if they knew how. However, almost always, you need a programmer to write something like this, as well as keep it constantly improving, since one can't just create something in a one-shot deal and think they're done. If you are sure your idea is as good as you say it is, it will be worth it to learn enough programming to make a facebook app yourself, get it popular like you said you will, and when it hits big you'll be able to find tons of developers. There are some business (or art) people who have dabbled in programming and made some contributions, but it is almost always 'hackers' who do. I think the problem people have with this isn't just that the programmer might end up doing more work for a program that might not go anywhere, but that the "opportunity cost" (some business lingo) to work on this delays completion of something else the hacker is already working on (with more equity and closer to fruition.) Finally, hackers would probably rather team up with another hacker (same culture, understanding of computers) than a business guy at our young age.