> we are clearly beyond the point where any goods are going to flow between the US and China No, we're at a point where goods won't flow from US to China, not

> we are clearly beyond the point where any goods are going to flow between the US and China No, we're at a point where goods won't flow from US to China, not the other way around. China has found workarounds for getting into the US for a long time e.g. via Canada and Mexico (why they got tariffs from day 1). They will continue to do so. Considering that the US is also adding tariffs to every other country, which side would they be on?