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> 5) Uh-oh, the model is underperforming, and the human worker pipeline is now some significant part of the full workflow. AI stands for "Actually, Indians."
by palmotea 2y ago
> 5) Uh-oh, the model is underperforming, and the human worker pipeline is now some significant part of the full workflow.
AI stands for "Actually, Indians."
- siva7 2y ago[flagged]
- johnisgood 2y agoIt is reality. Reality cannot be racist. :P
- rightbyte 2y agoUhm.. Do you include human social structures in reality? Even of you replace 'reality' with 'true' amd 'truth' the logic doesn't quite work out.
- johnisgood 2y agoOthers have already mentioned why it is grounded in reality. Call your ISP, Indian picks up. You are being scammed? Probably an Indian. It is not racist, I have nothing against Indians in particular, but the trend is there and it is quite obvious, hence, reality. If I replace "reality" with "truth", it does not work out because it makes no sense: "truth cannot be racist" makes no sense whatsoever. In relation or correspondence to what? It does work with reality, however.
- rightbyte 2y agoI am trying to argue that something existing in reality, does not make it not rascist. Like say apartheid or whatever. As a comment on "Reality cannot be racist".
- johnisgood 2y agoBut how is it racist? I am not afraid of Indians. I have nothing against some Indians, albeit I do have something against Indians who are celebrating something by stepping on manure, but since it does not affect me nor my country, I do not care what they do. UK might care though, it does affect them, but it does not make them racist either by not agreeing with some of their practices. FWIW my best friend is South Indian. In the North, he is hated for unknown reasons, different caste or whatever, I do not know. He usually tells me everything about Indians that I do ask. Another FWIW, he likes a barista (he is currently studying in the UK where he does not face any racism), and he came to me with help as to how to approach her. It is a good thing he did (he admitted it) because he would have ruined it by seeming so desperate, which seems to be a common trend among Indians, too. This is reality, too. To what extent? I do not know, but enough to notice. He is otherwise (despite being an Indian) a very well-mannered, curious, and smart person. He does seem to care much less about hygiene than one should, and blames things on diet, rather than just lack of hygiene. We discussed it in detail and he agreed, eventually. While we are at it, I dislike Indian accents, too, generally. This is a preference. It does not make me racist. Do you think it does? At any rate, if you have any questions, I am willing to answer (with his permission if it concerns him), but ultimately, I do not think it is racist.
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- perching_aix 2y agoNothing racist about it, India is essentially the #1 outsourcing destination. Not everything that involves an explicit mention of ethnicity / origin is racist.
- evnix 2y agoNot racist but offensive indeed. It's like relating school shootings to white people. A white child sitting in Norway might not relate and may find it offensive and insulting.
- perching_aix 2y agoI don't see this parallel, sorry.
- fkyoureadthedoc 2y agoIndia is a country, not a color of person. It's more like relating school shootings to the US, where an American child sitting in the US would definitely relate and find it accurate.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoIt's the other way around - it's racist if you're a US American, because in USA every problem is somehow ultimately called or blamed on racism. Elsewhere in the world, we'd all it xenophobia, or Indophobia if one has something against Indian people specifically. Though in this case, it's driven primarily by economic stereotypes, coming from the country becoming a cheap services outsourcing destination for the West, so there should be a better term coined for it. The anti-Indian sentiment in IT seems to be the services equivalent of the common "Made in China = cheap crap" belief, and because it applies to services and not products, it turns into discriminating people.
- johnisgood 2y agoIt is mainly because the majority of scammers that we hear about are Indian. I am not sure it has anything to do with xenophobia, whether they (or we) call it as such or not.
- morksinaanab 2y agoI always thought it stood for Almost Implemented
- b3lvedere 2y ago-- apologies --
- jansan 2y agoOr it should be changed to MT -> Mechanical Turk "Our bleeding edge AI/MT app..." does not sound bad at all.
- phyalow 2y agohttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/amazon-ends-ai-powered-store-checkout-which-needed-1000-video-reviewers/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/amazon-ends-ai-power...
- wraaath 2y agoholy crap the backstory on amazon fresh. no wonder. meanwhile I thought they'd solved that through tagging or something. I guess I should've known - I had read the articles on how scale ai had a ton of folks in the philippines...
- shantara 2y agoI’ve been reading the article about the failure of new Siri and this quote stuck with me: >Apple's AI/ML group has been dubbed "AIMLess" internally The article: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/04/10/chaos-behind-siri-revealed/ https://www.macrumors.com/2025/04/10/chaos-behind-siri-revea...
- evnix 2y ago[flagged]
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- iammrpayments 2y agoIt might offend people who are underpaying indians
- perching_aix 2y agoTry replacing it with Germans, and now it sounds like a praise, because the stereotype around Germans and Germany is that way. Is your problem that their phrasing invites stereotyping, or that the stereotype it invites happens to be negative? Because if it's the latter, do you really think that's the semantic intention here?
- evnix 2y agoI get that the intention was not harmful, but i am trying to make the poster understand how people might feel. Regarding Germans, if the news was, "AG deportation private company is a scam, they were sending people to forced euthanasia" and someone came and said, "AG stands for Actually Germans". I am sure no German would want to be associated with that.
- perching_aix 2y agoIt sounds like more the former then, which I do agree with.
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- K0balt 2y agoThis has been a running joke in several projects I have been involved in, each time, apparently independently evolved. I never bring it up, but I am amused each time it appears out of the zeitgeist. It’s actually the best Kind of ironic humor, the kind that exposes a truth and a lie at the same time, with just enough political incorrectness to get traction. I can’t even count the number of of times I have shut down “AI” projects where the actual plan was to use a labor pool to simulate AI, in order to create the training data to replace the humans with AI. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a terrible idea for some cases, but you can’t just come straight out of the gate with fraud. Well, I mean, you could. But. Maybe you shouldn’t.
- midnightblue 2y agoYou win the internets, sir.
- palmotea 2y ago> You win the internets, sir. Yes, I did. By repeating someone else's apropos joke, I get to reap the sweet, sweet internet points.
- midnightblue 2y agodownvoted for nostalgic use of Slashdot vernacular? we don't read these memetic cultural artifacts very often anymore. sometimes, you use them, just to keep them alive as a memento of a bygone era.
- coupdejarnac 2y agoDestiny fan?
- genewitch 2y agoAnonymous
- amy214 2y agoworth mentioning amazons amazing high tech "put everything in your cart and just walk out" ((( https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actual... ))) they 100% use this AI "Actually Indians" technology