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"No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health" [0]. Always interesting to see the responses of people to this scientific fact. [0] https://www.who.in

"No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health" [0]. Always interesting to see the responses of people to this scientific fact. [0] https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...

ViktorRay 2y ago
Perhaps the responses are less to the fact and more to the smug moralizing manner in which certain people point this out.
- satvikpendem 2y ago
  Nothing is moralizing about it, it's a neutral fact, but people just don't like it being pointed out to them. By all means, drink if you want, but many people seem to think it confers some health benefit which has been debunked, that's all that this article is talking about.
  - intrasight 2y ago
    There may have been a time when informed, intelligent people thought that alcohol had health benefits - but that time was many years ago now.
    - tbrownaw 2y ago
      All of the claims about health benefits that I've seen were about other (families of) chemicals, rather than the ethanol itself.
    - Duwensatzaj 2y ago
      Wrong. Latest research says it cuts heart disease risk and increases other risks.
strictnein 2y ago
It probably gets negative responses because people are tired of seeing it posted any time alcohol is mentioned. It's becoming like people saying they're vegan or they do crossfit any time food or exercise is mentioned. Alcohol isn't good for me, but I simply don't care.
- hall0ween 2y ago
  pwnd
tbrownaw 2y ago
> To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption. The new WHO statement clarifies: currently available evidence cannot indicate the existence of a threshold at which the carcinogenic effects of alcohol “switch on” and start to manifest in the human body. This does not say that it is known to be unsafe. This says that there is not sufficient data to know that it is safe. These are very different things, and presenting the later as is it was the former ~~is dishonest~~ showcases the poor level of statistical literacy that even most otherwise knowledgeable people have.
moi2388 2y ago
Which is nonsense, if I drink a glass once a year absolutely nothing bad whatsoever will happen. Even oxygen is worse - for one the withdrawal symptoms are much more severe
majkinetor 2y ago
This is simply not true and is probably some Huberman conspiracy or something... Any poison has hormetic effect. Claiming otherwise is irresponsible and incompetent.
- 000ooo000 2y ago
  Yes, Andrew Huberman infiltrated the World Health Organisation and convinced them to lie about safe levels of alcohol consumption.

ViktorRay 2y ago

Perhaps the responses are less to the fact and more to the smug moralizing manner in which certain people point this out.

satvikpendem 2y ago
Nothing is moralizing about it, it's a neutral fact, but people just don't like it being pointed out to them. By all means, drink if you want, but many people seem to think it confers some health benefit which has been debunked, that's all that this article is talking about.
- intrasight 2y ago
  There may have been a time when informed, intelligent people thought that alcohol had health benefits - but that time was many years ago now.
  - tbrownaw 2y ago
    All of the claims about health benefits that I've seen were about other (families of) chemicals, rather than the ethanol itself.
  - Duwensatzaj 2y ago
    Wrong. Latest research says it cuts heart disease risk and increases other risks.

strictnein 2y ago

It probably gets negative responses because people are tired of seeing it posted any time alcohol is mentioned. It's becoming like people saying they're vegan or they do crossfit any time food or exercise is mentioned. Alcohol isn't good for me, but I simply don't care.

hall0ween 2y ago
pwnd

tbrownaw 2y ago

> To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption. The new WHO statement clarifies: currently available evidence cannot indicate the existence of a threshold at which the carcinogenic effects of alcohol “switch on” and start to manifest in the human body. This does not say that it is known to be unsafe. This says that there is not sufficient data to know that it is safe. These are very different things, and presenting the later as is it was the former ~~is dishonest~~ showcases the poor level of statistical literacy that even most otherwise knowledgeable people have.

moi2388 2y ago

Which is nonsense, if I drink a glass once a year absolutely nothing bad whatsoever will happen. Even oxygen is worse - for one the withdrawal symptoms are much more severe

majkinetor 2y ago

This is simply not true and is probably some Huberman conspiracy or something... Any poison has hormetic effect. Claiming otherwise is irresponsible and incompetent.

000ooo000 2y ago
Yes, Andrew Huberman infiltrated the World Health Organisation and convinced them to lie about safe levels of alcohol consumption.