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It is widely standardized as 1 drink = 14g of alcohol, a definition that isn't affected by type of drink.

by 0_____0 2y ago

dchuk 2y ago
Who on earth knows what 14g of alcohol is in terms of visiting a bar?
- ab71e5 2y ago
  Beer is about 5%, so 14 times 20 = 280ml of beer, pretty standard beer glass size
  - dehrmann 2y ago
    Liquor is around 40% alcohol, and a shot is supposed to be 1.5 oz, so 17g. A bit more than a standard drink, but not far off.
    - hug 2y ago
      > a shot is supposed to be 1.5 oz There is no standard definition of a shot. Serves in the US will vary wildly, as will serves across Europe. In Australia, a shot is 30ml (close enough to 1 oz to make no difference) which is exactly one standard drink or 10g of alcohol, assuming straight spirit.
      - dehrmann 2y ago
        There's a bar I used to go to that has Whiskey Wednesdays. They're entire whiskey menu was half off. What they don't tell you (unless you ask) is they pour 1 oz shots instead of 1.5.
  - PontifexMinimus 2y ago
    In Britain the standard glass size is 568 ml, i.e. a pint.
    - satvikpendem 2y ago
      That's about two drinks, then.
    - hug 2y ago
      Having not traveled to the UK, is a half pint not also a fairly standard size? Pubs in Melbourne generally serve pints and "pots", aka half-pints.
      - PontifexMinimus 2y ago
        You can buy beer in halfs, but people more usually buy a pint.
- MathMonkeyMan 2y ago
  12 oz of 5% alcohol by volume water (let's say beer) has what mass of alcohol? 0.05 * (12 oz * ~30 mL/oz * ~800 mg alcohol / mL) = ~14 grams alcohol
- Gigachad 2y ago
  If it’s prepackaged (not from a tap), it’ll say on the packaging how many standard drinks it is.
quicklime 2y ago
Where I live, and it seems in most places in the world, a standard drink is 10g of alcohol. > The definition of what constitutes a standard drink varies very widely between countries,[2] with what each country defines as the amount of pure alcohol in a standard drink ranging from 8 to 20 grams. > The sample questionnaire form for the World Health Organization's Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test (AUDIT) uses 10 g (0.35 oz),[3] and this definition has been adopted by more countries than any other amount. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_drink https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_drink
- koolba 2y ago
  > Where I live, and it seems in most places in the world, a standard drink is 10g of alcohol. That is a weak pour. Not even an ounce of hooch. I definitely would not go back to that bar.
  - quicklime 2y ago
    One problem with the idea of a “standard drink” is that what people typically get at a bar (eg a pint of beer) is actually a fair bit more than a standard drink. It’s unrelated to a typical pour.
PontifexMinimus 2y ago
Note that a 568 ml pint of beer of 5% strength is by this definition 2 drinks. 4 pints over a week is basically nothing, and if they are saying it causes ill health, I don't believe them. When I was a student I drank 10 times that amount, so did many of my friends, without any apparent ill effects.
- satvikpendem 2y ago
  > Note that a 568 ml pint of beer of 5% strength is by this definition 2 drinks. Yes it is. I can always tell the difference between drinking a can of it versus a pint, it definitely does feel like twice the effects. > if they are saying it causes ill health, I don't believe them I mean you can believe whatever you want but the scientific consensus is that any amount of alcohol is bad for you [0]. Just because you and your friends didn't have ill effects does not mean that it was actually good or even neutral for you all, and statistically and biologically it's been shown to not be so either. [0] https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...
  - anon7725 2y ago
    There’s probably no safe limit of driving a car or using a step ladder. Alcohol has been with us since the beginning and will probably be with us until the end. The point of these studies should be to make people aware of the risks and motivate them to make appropriate choices. But part of the understanding of risk should be that there is a floor below which something else will most assuredly kill you. Is that floor 10 drinks per week? 2? Who knows.
NaOH 2y ago
As a reference for folks, 14g of a liquid that pours like water is one tablespoon.

It is widely standardized as 1 drink = 14g of alcohol, a definition that isn't affected by type of drink.

dchuk 2y ago

Who on earth knows what 14g of alcohol is in terms of visiting a bar?

ab71e5 2y ago
Beer is about 5%, so 14 times 20 = 280ml of beer, pretty standard beer glass size
- dehrmann 2y ago
  Liquor is around 40% alcohol, and a shot is supposed to be 1.5 oz, so 17g. A bit more than a standard drink, but not far off.
  - hug 2y ago
    > a shot is supposed to be 1.5 oz There is no standard definition of a shot. Serves in the US will vary wildly, as will serves across Europe. In Australia, a shot is 30ml (close enough to 1 oz to make no difference) which is exactly one standard drink or 10g of alcohol, assuming straight spirit.
    - dehrmann 2y ago
      There's a bar I used to go to that has Whiskey Wednesdays. They're entire whiskey menu was half off. What they don't tell you (unless you ask) is they pour 1 oz shots instead of 1.5.
- PontifexMinimus 2y ago
  In Britain the standard glass size is 568 ml, i.e. a pint.
  - satvikpendem 2y ago
    That's about two drinks, then.
  - hug 2y ago
    Having not traveled to the UK, is a half pint not also a fairly standard size? Pubs in Melbourne generally serve pints and "pots", aka half-pints.
    - PontifexMinimus 2y ago
      You can buy beer in halfs, but people more usually buy a pint.
MathMonkeyMan 2y ago
12 oz of 5% alcohol by volume water (let's say beer) has what mass of alcohol? 0.05 * (12 oz * ~30 mL/oz * ~800 mg alcohol / mL) = ~14 grams alcohol
Gigachad 2y ago
If it’s prepackaged (not from a tap), it’ll say on the packaging how many standard drinks it is.

quicklime 2y ago

Where I live, and it seems in most places in the world, a standard drink is 10g of alcohol. > The definition of what constitutes a standard drink varies very widely between countries,[2] with what each country defines as the amount of pure alcohol in a standard drink ranging from 8 to 20 grams. > The sample questionnaire form for the World Health Organization's Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test (AUDIT) uses 10 g (0.35 oz),[3] and this definition has been adopted by more countries than any other amount. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_drink https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_drink

koolba 2y ago
> Where I live, and it seems in most places in the world, a standard drink is 10g of alcohol. That is a weak pour. Not even an ounce of hooch. I definitely would not go back to that bar.
- quicklime 2y ago
  One problem with the idea of a “standard drink” is that what people typically get at a bar (eg a pint of beer) is actually a fair bit more than a standard drink. It’s unrelated to a typical pour.

PontifexMinimus 2y ago

Note that a 568 ml pint of beer of 5% strength is by this definition 2 drinks. 4 pints over a week is basically nothing, and if they are saying it causes ill health, I don't believe them. When I was a student I drank 10 times that amount, so did many of my friends, without any apparent ill effects.

satvikpendem 2y ago
> Note that a 568 ml pint of beer of 5% strength is by this definition 2 drinks. Yes it is. I can always tell the difference between drinking a can of it versus a pint, it definitely does feel like twice the effects. > if they are saying it causes ill health, I don't believe them I mean you can believe whatever you want but the scientific consensus is that any amount of alcohol is bad for you [0]. Just because you and your friends didn't have ill effects does not mean that it was actually good or even neutral for you all, and statistically and biologically it's been shown to not be so either. [0] https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...
- anon7725 2y ago
  There’s probably no safe limit of driving a car or using a step ladder. Alcohol has been with us since the beginning and will probably be with us until the end. The point of these studies should be to make people aware of the risks and motivate them to make appropriate choices. But part of the understanding of risk should be that there is a floor below which something else will most assuredly kill you. Is that floor 10 drinks per week? 2? Who knows.

NaOH 2y ago

As a reference for folks, 14g of a liquid that pours like water is one tablespoon.