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The percentage of the population smoking weed has also roughly doubled in that time, as another likely contributing factor

fc417fc802 2y ago
Have you ever actually ridden with someone under the influence? In contrast to alcohol (or caffeine, among other things) they're generally much less prone to road rage, much less prone to hurried or reckless behavior, and often somewhat paranoid. At least in my personal experience they're more likely to drive under the speed limit than over it. I strongly suspect that it increases road safety on the whole.
- HideousKojima 2y ago
  It appears to be less dangerous than driving drunk, but still quite a bit worse than driving sober: https://instituteofliving.org/health-wellness/news/newsroom-detail?articleId=38108&publicid=472 https://instituteofliving.org/health-wellness/news/newsroom-...
  - fc417fc802 2y ago
    I would accuse that article of serious problems due to potentially very misleading statistics. The entire claim comes down to a single unsubstantiated quote. > The odds of being involved in a motor vehicle crash when driving ‘stoned’ are approximately double those of sober driving, but significantly less than the 10 to 15 times increase when driving with a blood alcohol concentration of approximately 0.1, That statistic doesn't account for conditional probability. At any given time of day, the set of people consuming recreational drugs have a significantly different distribution of group membership than the inverse of that set. I am reasonably confident that it constitutes a fatal flaw in this case. > during the pandemic, fatally injured and non-fatally injured drivers “have demonstrated significantly higher overall drug prevalence.” That doesn't tell us anything since what we would need is the numbers relative to trips without incident normalized for historical driving behavior of the individuals queried. (I realize that would be a nearly impossible dataset to obtain. That doesn't make the presented statement correct though.)
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fc417fc802 2y ago

Have you ever actually ridden with someone under the influence? In contrast to alcohol (or caffeine, among other things) they're generally much less prone to road rage, much less prone to hurried or reckless behavior, and often somewhat paranoid. At least in my personal experience they're more likely to drive under the speed limit than over it. I strongly suspect that it increases road safety on the whole.

HideousKojima 2y ago
It appears to be less dangerous than driving drunk, but still quite a bit worse than driving sober: https://instituteofliving.org/health-wellness/news/newsroom-detail?articleId=38108&publicid=472 https://instituteofliving.org/health-wellness/news/newsroom-...
- fc417fc802 2y ago
  I would accuse that article of serious problems due to potentially very misleading statistics. The entire claim comes down to a single unsubstantiated quote. > The odds of being involved in a motor vehicle crash when driving ‘stoned’ are approximately double those of sober driving, but significantly less than the 10 to 15 times increase when driving with a blood alcohol concentration of approximately 0.1, That statistic doesn't account for conditional probability. At any given time of day, the set of people consuming recreational drugs have a significantly different distribution of group membership than the inverse of that set. I am reasonably confident that it constitutes a fatal flaw in this case. > during the pandemic, fatally injured and non-fatally injured drivers “have demonstrated significantly higher overall drug prevalence.” That doesn't tell us anything since what we would need is the numbers relative to trips without incident normalized for historical driving behavior of the individuals queried. (I realize that would be a nearly impossible dataset to obtain. That doesn't make the presented statement correct though.)
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