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What exactly do you mean by "UNIX"? Commercial UNIX vendors other than Apple have basically a rounding error from 0% of market share.

anthk 2y ago
Are you from 2001? Sorry, but Apple at servers' market it's non-existent. RH and Canonical make tons of money thanks to being THE platform of the ubiquituous internet. Support is not free.
- mort96 2y ago
  Are you calling Linux a UNIX? I mean GNU/Linux is certainly a UNIX-like system, but aren't "UNIXes" typically used to refer to operating systems which stem from AT&T's UNIX, such as the BSDs and Solaris and HP-UX and the like? GNU's Not UNIX after all
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    I have fond memories associated with OpenSolaris. Oracle ruined it. I have not tried OpenIndiana, however.
  - anthk 2y ago
    GNU isn't Unix as NT isn't Win32. Gnu promotes Unix, but also promotes Emacs on top. NT can run Win32 on top of it, but there's far more than Win32 with NT systems. Just get ReactOS and open the NT object explorer under explorer.exe. Far more advanced than Windows 95/98.
    - mort96 2y ago
      Win32 is an API, while UNIX, NT and GNU are all operating systems made by AT&T, Microsoft and the GNU Project respectively. I agree that the GNU operating system isn't the UNIX operating system, and I agree that the NT operating system isn't the Win32 API, but I have no idea what comparison you're trying to draw. It almost sounds like you think UNIX is an API like Win32, and that GNU is an operating system which "implements UNIX" like NT is an operating system which "implements Win32"? Are you confusing UNIX with POSIX? GNU was made to replace UNIX, not to promote it.
      - anthk 2y ago
        No, I'm not confusing Unix with POSIX, but POSIX today superseded old Unix. What I mean both NT and GNU enhanced and modernized their own subsystems. Even OpenBSD is not as 'pure Unix' as Unix V7.
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  Gnu/Linux and UNIX are not the same thing. Yes I understand that RHEL and Ubuntu are popular.
pjmlp 2y ago
Yet IBM, Oracle, HP and POSIX RTOS vendors keep enough customers happy with that rouding error.
encom 2y ago
Apple is not a UNIX vendor. They checked off enough of a compliance list to pass in the legal and marketing sense, but in any real practical sense it's not usable as a UNIX system. It's not designed to serve anything. Most of it is locked down and proprietary. No headless operation, no native package manager, root is neutered... and so on. It's not UNIX.

anthk 2y ago

Are you from 2001? Sorry, but Apple at servers' market it's non-existent. RH and Canonical make tons of money thanks to being THE platform of the ubiquituous internet. Support is not free.

mort96 2y ago
Are you calling Linux a UNIX? I mean GNU/Linux is certainly a UNIX-like system, but aren't "UNIXes" typically used to refer to operating systems which stem from AT&T's UNIX, such as the BSDs and Solaris and HP-UX and the like? GNU's Not UNIX after all
- johnisgood 2y ago
  I have fond memories associated with OpenSolaris. Oracle ruined it. I have not tried OpenIndiana, however.
- anthk 2y ago
  GNU isn't Unix as NT isn't Win32. Gnu promotes Unix, but also promotes Emacs on top. NT can run Win32 on top of it, but there's far more than Win32 with NT systems. Just get ReactOS and open the NT object explorer under explorer.exe. Far more advanced than Windows 95/98.
  - mort96 2y ago
    Win32 is an API, while UNIX, NT and GNU are all operating systems made by AT&T, Microsoft and the GNU Project respectively. I agree that the GNU operating system isn't the UNIX operating system, and I agree that the NT operating system isn't the Win32 API, but I have no idea what comparison you're trying to draw. It almost sounds like you think UNIX is an API like Win32, and that GNU is an operating system which "implements UNIX" like NT is an operating system which "implements Win32"? Are you confusing UNIX with POSIX? GNU was made to replace UNIX, not to promote it.
    - anthk 2y ago
      No, I'm not confusing Unix with POSIX, but POSIX today superseded old Unix. What I mean both NT and GNU enhanced and modernized their own subsystems. Even OpenBSD is not as 'pure Unix' as Unix V7.
School-Cotton 2y ago
Gnu/Linux and UNIX are not the same thing. Yes I understand that RHEL and Ubuntu are popular.

pjmlp 2y ago

Yet IBM, Oracle, HP and POSIX RTOS vendors keep enough customers happy with that rouding error.

encom 2y ago

Apple is not a UNIX vendor. They checked off enough of a compliance list to pass in the legal and marketing sense, but in any real practical sense it's not usable as a UNIX system. It's not designed to serve anything. Most of it is locked down and proprietary. No headless operation, no native package manager, root is neutered... and so on. It's not UNIX.