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> The hijackers responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were carrying U.S. driver’s licenses and state IDs. That’s bothered me about so much airport (and e
by duxup 2y ago
> The hijackers responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were carrying U.S. driver’s licenses and state IDs.
That’s bothered me about so much airport (and elsewhere) security after Sept 11… few of the new rules would have prevented the disaster that triggered them.
So now everything is a constant hassle / expense, and seem to prevent nothing.
- FigurativeVoid 2y agoIt's absolutely security theater.
- vikingerik 2y agoAnd remember the median number of flights taken by an American in a year is zero. The majority of the population is never affected by it, so they can happily vote and support anything that makes them feel more secure or like they're helping, with no downside they ever feel.
- duxup 2y agoA few times a year I end up in a TSA line where one TSA person is shouting instructions to everyone, and 20 feet away the next is countermanding those instructions and seems exasperated that everyone is doing the wrong thing. It's such a bad joke. A few years ago I went through an airport that had a dog checking everyone. The handler was struggling to get the dog to do his job, people were not being checked, dog / puppy just wanted to play.
- FigurativeVoid 2y agoThis is the thing that irritates me most. If I get in one line, I don't have to do anything. If I get in the other I have to unpack my laptop, take of my shoes, accessories, whatever. Once there was a woman in front of me who asked why we take our shoes off and the response was "Once someone put a bomb in there shoes." 1. I don't love remedies to problems that happened once. 2. We had an international pandemic once... by your logic shouldn't we always mask at the airport?
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- the_svd_doctor 2y agoYou can bring food. You’re right about drinks though. Albeit it’s not very hard to find free water in airports.
- _mlbt 2y agoIf you really pay attention to all of these laws, you’ll notice most of them use these tragedies as an excuse to infringe upon our rights. Most gun control laws are the same way.
- duxup 2y agoMost gun control attempts that I see would at least in theory possibly prevented the tragedy that inspired them. The real id, would not have done anything.
- _mlbt 2y agoWhat specific gun control laws do we not already have on the books that would actually prevent a determined individual from getting a gun?
- duxup 2y agoThe fact that anyone might get around a law doesn't prevent us from having laws. My point being a key 9/11 inspired law would not prevent even the event that inspired it, even in theory.
- _mlbt 2y agoYou’re deliberately dodging my question. Your point is also true of most gun control laws. Short of full confiscation you will not stop people from obtaining guns illegally via straw purchases or theft. Gun control will also not prevent law abiding citizens that suddenly become homicidal with no priors. So again, what specific gun control laws would actually make a difference that aren’t already on the books?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y agoThey're not dodging your question. They engaged your point with a point of their own and you asked a non sequitur question in reply to that.
- empath75 2y agoReally the only meaningful change was locking the cockpit during flight from the inside.
- timerol 2y agoThe combination of lockable bulletproof cockpit doors, and everyone realizing that a hostage situation on a plane means that everyone dies, helped make sure that 9/11 would not be repeated. The rest of it is security theater.