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> And people that enjoy creating art will still do it regardless. Some people will, but for me, I could never justify spending time and money to learn somethin
by jarbus 2y ago
> And people that enjoy creating art will still do it regardless.
Some people will, but for me, I could never justify spending time and money to learn something an AI could do better than me. I'd constantly feel like I'm wasting my time.
- itchyjunk 2y agoPeople still calligraph even though we have printer. People will actively spend money in a hobby they like. It's totally fair that you personally might not want to do it anymore if AI can, but I think parent was saying other people will continue to do it if they enjoy it. There are tons of people who create copy right free music anyways. Talking about those type of people. :)
- jarbus 2y agoI agree, but there's probably a lot of people who would love calligraphy who never even try it out, because it seems useless.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 2y agoYou will be able to once you change your success indicator from profit to the simple joy of learning and making
- jarbus 2y agoI don't even care about profit. My success indicator is "making something I couldn't make before". Since AI can do it, I can't justify learning an instrument, even if I might enjoy the process a bit.
- MSFT_Edging 2y agoI think this sentiment is actually incredibly sad and more or less the crux of the matter. AI is a tool intended on increasing efficiency. The way you describe the act of making art/crafting things seems to come through the lens of efficiency, where you're wasting your time in the struggle of improvement. The time spent struggling is not time wasted. The struggle is the single most important aspect of learning and improving. Its how lessons learned reach the deep subconscious as if you're walking or writing with a pen. No good musician, painter, sculptor, systems engineer, etc became that way without that deep struggle. If someone says they never struggled, be wary of them. If we round off every corner in the name of efficiency and the bottom line, all we're left with is toil. We don't benefit from that toil, the people who push for greater and greater efficiency do. No matter how efficient we get, the excesses produced by the efficiencies will be guarded. Food thrown away, excess milk dumped in the dirt, crops burned, profits stowed away. The AI can only exist via previous struggle. The music produced by AI will only ever be a shadow of Human struggle. It will never truly exceed that struggle. A series of vectors in memory on a graphics card can't know the feeling of a beat as it resounds in ones chest, or the resolution of a chord as the bridge turns around. It can't know the sympathetic emotions of a story told in lyrics. It can't know the nostalgia evoked by a shadow in a painting, or the familiarity of an expression in a face. Only we as humans can create this, and its sad and disgusting to see these tools used to degrade the human experience for an ounce of profit by people who refuse to allow themselves to understand the struggle of creating art.
- jarbus 2y agoI appreciate the in-depth response, and I agree for the most part; the issue is, I can choose to struggle on something more practical. I'd get less fulfillment, but in today's economy, it's a far safer option, and I'd still learn and grow.
- epiccoleman 2y agoThat seems silly. I spend time and money to get better at guitar even though there are countless pro (and amateur) musicians who can do it better than me.
- jarbus 2y agoYeah, but you don't have access to those people all the time. If I have a free tool on my laptop that can do everything better than me at my command, it feels silly to spend the time to master the instrument.