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Again, you're just regurgitating what Reform talking heads are saying. You probably didn't even realise that the sentencing guidelines were put on hold on the

Again, you're just regurgitating what Reform talking heads are saying. You probably didn't even realise that the sentencing guidelines were put on hold on the 31st of March. Got any proof that the fall in white admission to university is down to discrimination, and not the relative poorer showing of the native population compared to first and second generation immigrants who put a higher premium on doing well at school? Also can you respond with some of the "non whites only" job postings?

callamdelaney 2y ago
Between 2019 and 2023 28.8% [0] of students admitted to Oxford were of ethnic minority background. Cambridge admitted 34% [1] ethnic minority students in 2023. That means you're roughly twice as likely to be admitted to a top university as a minority student. It's possible that some percentage of this is because of better academic achievement, though in that case it's confusing that Oxbridge are looking to remove exams due to underperformance of students of ethnic minority background in tests [2] - which would support my view that it is easier to study at these institutions if you aren't white. but it's also possible that the education system is systematically 'letting down' white boys, which is a view supported by an education committee report (and countless others) in 2021. [3] - 31 white pilots were let go / held back / paid off so that the RAF could prioritise diversity hires [4], [5]. - Police roles only open to BME candidates [6] - there are countless other examples of this, various government departments have used 'positive action' racism clauses in the same way. You're just regurgitating what Labour talking heads are saying. You probably didn't even realise that it's legal to be racist against white people. Perhaps you should read more of the news, so you can understand what's really going on. [0] https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-statistics/undergraduate-students https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-stat... [1] https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/files/publications/ug_admissions_statistics_2023_cycle.pdf https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/file... [2] https://www.yahoo.com/news/oxford-cambridge-move-away-traditional-150807467.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/oxford-cambridge-move-away-tradit... [3] https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-committee/news/156024/forgotten-white-workingclass-pupils-let-down-by-decades-of-neglect-mps-say/ https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-com... [4] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66060490 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66060490 [5] https://news.sky.com/story/raf-recruiters-were-advised-against-selecting-useless-white-male-pilots-to-hit-diversity-targets-12893684 https://news.sky.com/story/raf-recruiters-were-advised-again... [6] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/09/west-yorkshire-police-blocks-white-applicants-diversity/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/09/west-yorkshire-p...
- philjohn 2y ago
  On [2] you conveniently left out the key quote: "minority groups and poorer students." why are you against helping out disadantaged people whatever their stripes? On [3] it was found to be unlawful so your assertion that "It's legal to be racist against white people" careers headlong into reality that no, it's not. As for the west yorkshire story, do you not want the police to be representative of the area they serve? There are far more white men than there are as a proportion of the local population. It feels like you're grasping at straws here.

callamdelaney 2y ago

Between 2019 and 2023 28.8% [0] of students admitted to Oxford were of ethnic minority background. Cambridge admitted 34% [1] ethnic minority students in 2023. That means you're roughly twice as likely to be admitted to a top university as a minority student. It's possible that some percentage of this is because of better academic achievement, though in that case it's confusing that Oxbridge are looking to remove exams due to underperformance of students of ethnic minority background in tests [2] - which would support my view that it is easier to study at these institutions if you aren't white. but it's also possible that the education system is systematically 'letting down' white boys, which is a view supported by an education committee report (and countless others) in 2021. [3] - 31 white pilots were let go / held back / paid off so that the RAF could prioritise diversity hires [4], [5]. - Police roles only open to BME candidates [6] - there are countless other examples of this, various government departments have used 'positive action' racism clauses in the same way. You're just regurgitating what Labour talking heads are saying. You probably didn't even realise that it's legal to be racist against white people. Perhaps you should read more of the news, so you can understand what's really going on. [0] https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-statistics/undergraduate-students https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/admissions-stat... [1] https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/files/publications/ug_admissions_statistics_2023_cycle.pdf https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/file... [2] https://www.yahoo.com/news/oxford-cambridge-move-away-traditional-150807467.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/oxford-cambridge-move-away-tradit... [3] https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-committee/news/156024/forgotten-white-workingclass-pupils-let-down-by-decades-of-neglect-mps-say/ https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/203/education-com... [4] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66060490 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66060490 [5] https://news.sky.com/story/raf-recruiters-were-advised-against-selecting-useless-white-male-pilots-to-hit-diversity-targets-12893684 https://news.sky.com/story/raf-recruiters-were-advised-again... [6] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/09/west-yorkshire-police-blocks-white-applicants-diversity/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/09/west-yorkshire-p...

philjohn 2y ago
On [2] you conveniently left out the key quote: "minority groups and poorer students." why are you against helping out disadantaged people whatever their stripes? On [3] it was found to be unlawful so your assertion that "It's legal to be racist against white people" careers headlong into reality that no, it's not. As for the west yorkshire story, do you not want the police to be representative of the area they serve? There are far more white men than there are as a proportion of the local population. It feels like you're grasping at straws here.