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The immigration problems in America seem very much self-inflicted. There's a lot that could be done to make it virtually impossible to live in the US illegally
by kubb 2y ago
The immigration problems in America seem very much self-inflicted.
There's a lot that could be done to make it virtually impossible to live in the US illegally long term, but it's just not being done.
The freak out about illegal immigrants is chronic though. It's weird, did you ever hear about any other place pulling their hair out that much over this issue?
- tomduncalf 2y agoImmigration (illegal or otherwise) was one of the big arguments that won the Brexit vote here in the UK. I guess it's an easy one to rile people up with for whatever reason.
- andybak 2y agoIt's also the topic that has the least literacy and understanding or even coherent debate. Most developed nations are going to have to choose the lesser of several "evils" very soon and there's almost no serious discussion of what the options actually are.
- idle_zealot 2y ago> did you ever hear about any other place pulling their hair out that much over this issue? Yes? Lots of right-wing parties in European countries use the same rhetoric. Xenophobia is just a manifestation of humanity's propensity for tribalism, weaponized for political support. In the US we've had one party fight to make it as hard as possible to immigrate and remain in the country legally, and another party fight back by paralyzing enforcement and deportation. The result is the insane state we're in where we have loads of illegally-present residents going about their lives and contributing to our communities and economy.
- weinzierl 2y agoGermany reporting in. Since the AFD party has fueled the debate, the other parties have outdone themselves across the board, when it comes to migration, "remigration" (which is the euphemism for deportation here) and closing the borders. Apparently we are even deporting EU citizens now. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/09/germany-deport-me-eu-citizen-no-crime-standing-palestine https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/09/german...
- monkeyfun 2y agoWow! Thank you for sharing this! I probably never would have heard of it otherwise, having had to focus so much of my energies on America lately.
- jddj 2y agoAt least two Australian elections in recent(ish) memory were heavily influenced by illegal immigrant rhetoric. In particular the children overboard scandal and stop the boats.
- 8note 2y agothe immigration problems really dont exist in america. labour arrives to fill a need. the biggest problem is that the workers cant exert their rights
- deepfriedchokes 2y agoThe need that immigrant labour is filling is the need for businesses to pay labour less. Without it wages would rise and the labour market would benefit (at the expense of business). I think the reason we’re seeing so much anger by voters is we’re running our economy to benefit business at the expense of labour, which is why we’re seeing such a strong reaction against immigration by a large portion of the working class. It’s misplaced anger, but Capitalism is our religion and like Christianity it’s been deemed beyond criticism.
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- gman83 2y agoI don't get it really, you'd think that with aging populations, western countries would be desperate for young, able-bodied immigrants that will work and keep their social welfare systems viable, but it seems like it's the opposite.
- mrguyorama 2y agoGrandma's generation was the same one that filled in their community pool with concrete rather than share it with black kids. Grandma's generation shut down schools, clubs, community events, parks, etc, rather than share those things with black kids. "Cut your nose to spite the brown kids" has kind of been their consistent position their entire lives.
- DesiLurker 2y agomore like 'I got mine, F U' to anybody else including their own kids.