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Yes, this - OS X wouldn't have become a near-ubiquitous developer desktop. That would have been very bad for Apple.
by b800h 2y ago
Yes, this - OS X wouldn't have become a near-ubiquitous developer desktop. That would have been very bad for Apple.
- graemep 2y agoReally? Most users I have come across are not developers. A high proportion of developers use it, but the proportion of users who are developrrs is quire low.
- cbzbc 2y agoI think you'd have got a much smaller eco-system of third party apps for MacOS (think omnigraffle etc). Whether that would have made a substantive difference I can't say.
- actionfromafar 2y agoDevelopers drive adoption (not least by creating software) and high specs.
- graemep 2y agoYes, but those developing for Apple OSes would have adopted whatever OS Apple used. The developer who pick it because it is a Unix are people who developer for Unix like OSes, mostly for servers, so they mostly do not produce software that drives adoption by people who are not developers.
- actionfromafar 2y agoThis is true. Only upside I can see is that the developer tools available for "unix-ish" system were really strong (if clunky at times).
- bigstrat2003 2y agoI don't even think it's true that a high proportion of developers use Macs. My guess would be that most developers use Windows, because most developers work for corporations and most corporations issue Windows machines to all employees. Companies which offer a choice are in the minority.
- anthk 2y agoThe rest of the world doesn't use OSX for all.
- lproven 2y agoI beg to differ. I am a techie, I travel a lot, and I've worked for both the 2 biggest enterprise Linux vendors. Windows boxes are in use in both of them, and Windows laptops are everywhere -- but the second most popular platform after Windows, and the 2nd most popular after Linux inside Linux vendors, is macOS. It's everywhere. The partial exception was when I moved to Czechia. A decade ago it was still relatively poor. Few iDevices, few Android phones, lots of Windows Mobile then. Not many Macs except inside big companies. But that's changed. Now they're everywhere there, too. MacOS is huge. I see Macs everywhere, far far more than I ever see ChromeBooks in the real world. I think most ChromeBooks are probably in schools.
- anthk 2y agoI'm from Spain. Europe it's Androidlandia, that's it. When a Xiaomi device it's as good as most iPhones at a far lower price (for basic needs), then Android curbstomps Apple there. At work, Windows. Forget Apple, or Chrome. Companies will set AD and Windows. On backends and high tier servers, developing machines, and so on: GNU/Linux, hands down. The IT companies virtualize Windows machines with KVM, set up an AD domain under a VM and call it a day. No Apple there. OTOH, I have to say that iPads have a much better touchscreen for handwritten input with lightpens. Hope Android solves that soon.
- lproven 2y ago> Europe it's Androidlandia, that's it. I reject all your generalisations. I'm an Irish citizen who until 2023 lived in Brno then Prague. Since I moved to the Isle of Man I've travelled and worked in Latvia, the Netherlands, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Czechia, Austria, England, Ireland, and Scotland, from memory. While I lived in Czechia I routinely travelled in all the countries it borders. I have seen more iPhones in use than any single make of Android, and more iPads than all other forms of tablet put together. MS Surface tablets are #2 and outnumber all Android tablets put together. I am typing on a work-provided MacBook Air and my boss also uses MacBooks, and I think the majority of the company works on them, but we stopped having a central office years ago so my sampling is very ad hoc. At both the enterprise Linux vendors where I've been a paid full-time member of staff, most managers and marketing people use MacBooks. (IMHO this is a damning indictment of desktop Linux but that's incidental.) My own direct observations in the last decade refute your claims. I can't give you numbers but let's put it this way: the majority of the guests I invited to my wedding in 2023 I had to use Apple Messages from my iMac to contact, because they're not on any of the systems I use: Whatsapp, Signal, or Telegram. Your experience is NOT representative.