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There are so many Google products that overlap it's mind boggling

echelon 2y ago
They're trying to get in on the AI IDE / AI coding land rush so they don't have to acquire one of the leaders later. Or get blocked from acquiring one for antitrust reasons. Winning a chunk of this space feels like a major chess move that enables a lot of market optionality. Google and Microsoft both have web IDEs, so it's a natural product evolution for these (though Microsoft's Github is much better positioned with its deep distribution and integrations). It still feels like these are so far behind Cursor and Zed and the like in terms of getting real work done, but maybe the customer is new or non-engineers. I haven't looked at startups like Replit. Are they even in this game? And then there are the end-to-end products like Vercel's V0, Lovable, Bolt, etc. If they can get past the 80% problem, they might be a huge deal. This is going to be quite the battle.
- giancarlostoro 2y ago
  Google also has quite the graveyard of products. I dont trust them. Hell they even have an OS that competes directly with Android.
- x187463 2y ago
  Do you think Cursor's AI tools are significantly better than VSCode's Copilot? I haven't had time to check out Cursor. But from the general description, the AI tooling sounds very similar.
  - gusmally 2y ago
    It is a common opinion (shared by myself and many others, including the streamer Primeagen, for example) that Cursor is much better than Copilot
irjustin 2y ago
It's also literally named a product that has historical meaning in the developer community.
- neom 2y ago
  You mean Tamplin didn't ship this?! Srsly tho, I think the idea (or at least was my impression) that it's backed by firebase and firebase has just become ubiquitous for a part of the gcp backend stack? so I thought firebase studio was a way to put a v0 app creator tool on top of firebase? In that context it made sense to me, but maybe I'm misunderstanding.
TiredOfLife 2y ago
And which one this overlaps?
- kylecazar 2y ago
  To be honest, I don't know what this overlaps with before investing the time using it. As far as I know they already have Google AI Studio, Vertex AI Studio, Project IDX (which I suppose this replaces), Firebase Studio and each individual tool also has their own AI features/plugins (Android Studio w/ Gemini, etc)
  - TiredOfLife 2y ago
    This is renamed Project IDX. And that is something like GitHub Codespaces. Only instead of VS Code it uses a laundered version of VS Code called theia running in browser or Android studio remote video streamed as frontend and backed by a nix configured docker container.

They're trying to get in on the AI IDE / AI coding land rush so they don't have to acquire one of the leaders later. Or get blocked from acquiring one for antitrust reasons. Winning a chunk of this space feels like a major chess move that enables a lot of market optionality. Google and Microsoft both have web IDEs, so it's a natural product evolution for these (though Microsoft's Github is much better positioned with its deep distribution and integrations). It still feels like these are so far behind Cursor and Zed and the like in terms of getting real work done, but maybe the customer is new or non-engineers. I haven't looked at startups like Replit. Are they even in this game? And then there are the end-to-end products like Vercel's V0, Lovable, Bolt, etc. If they can get past the 80% problem, they might be a huge deal. This is going to be quite the battle.

giancarlostoro 2y ago
Google also has quite the graveyard of products. I dont trust them. Hell they even have an OS that competes directly with Android.
x187463 2y ago
Do you think Cursor's AI tools are significantly better than VSCode's Copilot? I haven't had time to check out Cursor. But from the general description, the AI tooling sounds very similar.
- gusmally 2y ago
  It is a common opinion (shared by myself and many others, including the streamer Primeagen, for example) that Cursor is much better than Copilot

irjustin 2y ago

It's also literally named a product that has historical meaning in the developer community.

neom 2y ago
You mean Tamplin didn't ship this?! Srsly tho, I think the idea (or at least was my impression) that it's backed by firebase and firebase has just become ubiquitous for a part of the gcp backend stack? so I thought firebase studio was a way to put a v0 app creator tool on top of firebase? In that context it made sense to me, but maybe I'm misunderstanding.

TiredOfLife 2y ago

And which one this overlaps?

kylecazar 2y ago
To be honest, I don't know what this overlaps with before investing the time using it. As far as I know they already have Google AI Studio, Vertex AI Studio, Project IDX (which I suppose this replaces), Firebase Studio and each individual tool also has their own AI features/plugins (Android Studio w/ Gemini, etc)
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  This is renamed Project IDX. And that is something like GitHub Codespaces. Only instead of VS Code it uses a laundered version of VS Code called theia running in browser or Android studio remote video streamed as frontend and backed by a nix configured docker container.