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How was your experience? Would it compare to Cursor, Windsurf, Cline/Roo?

indigodaddy 2y ago
tbh i haven't used the agentic/gemini integration hardly at all yet. All i did was add an already completed project just to see how the web ide/preview performed.
CharlieDigital 2y ago
Friend is working on a SaaS startup solo as a non-technical founder. Been building using Replit and Cursor with Claude 3.5 and 3.7 and launched with live customers. I preface because he's been using AI basically every day to build his SaaS. His comments today: > also gemini 2.5 is beating claude
- indigodaddy 2y ago
  Mind revealing the product/site or are they going to do an upcoming hn launch..?
  - CharlieDigital 2y ago
    He has asked to not reveal it and not likely to reveal it. I asked him about it because I think the press would be insane, but it's a niche B2B SaaS and he doesn't want the "made with AI" branding to hurt the image of the product from a customer perspective. Second concern is people trying to hack it in case the LLM took shortcuts on security. But I can say that as a 20yr+ eng. and having worked with him on a prior startup, I'm super, super impressed how far he got by himself in under 4 months. Basically a full-blown industry specific CRM with Stripe integration, OCR from mobile web app, desktop web app, marketplace. He himself is concerned that it's the end of SaaS as he thinks anyone can build these things now, but I think there's still a bit of a chasm when it comes to some ancillary pieces like databases.
    - bigiain 2y ago
      > he doesn't want the "made with AI" branding to hurt the image of the product from a customer perspective That's kinda telling.
      - CharlieDigital 2y ago
        At the same time, he's really helping small business customers by offering a competitive product at a fraction of the price of the dominant vendors in the space (a duopoly) because he has no overhead. Customers love the product. No ads or marketing and he's got 30ish customers via word of mouth.
        rsingel 2y ago
        Interesting but a CRM built by a non-technical person using AI? I think that's pretty irresponsible - building a product that holds PII without any concern for security. Not to mention that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
      - dmos62 2y ago
        I ran into a Show HN thread not so long ago where people were outright hostile to a minimally technical developer that did something actually impressive, in my eyes at least, but he was open about using AI for everything. I've not seen a more badly mannered thread on HN. It's like some people are triggered by non-veterans programming with AI. I think everyone understands the downsides. Why get angry about it?
        9rx 2y ago
        It is inconceivable that someone would become angry on the internet. You're going to turn off the computer and run outside as fast as possible if you sense that your emotions are even just ever so slightly shifting from enjoyment. Sarcasm is the internet default, though. Perhaps you didn't quite pick up on it that time?
        2y ago
- indigodaddy 2y ago
  I've been enjoying just trying to one-shot little pages that I think are useful with v0.dev. It does a pretty good job and I like that I can just one-button deploy to my Vercel account (which "just works"). Here's one I did today: https://v0-github-repo-stream.vercel.app/ https://v0-github-repo-stream.vercel.app/
  - indigodaddy 2y ago
    One more for fun :) https://retro-computing-stream.onrender.com/ https://retro-computing-stream.onrender.com/

tbh i haven't used the agentic/gemini integration hardly at all yet. All i did was add an already completed project just to see how the web ide/preview performed.

CharlieDigital 2y ago

Friend is working on a SaaS startup solo as a non-technical founder. Been building using Replit and Cursor with Claude 3.5 and 3.7 and launched with live customers. I preface because he's been using AI basically every day to build his SaaS. His comments today: > also gemini 2.5 is beating claude

indigodaddy 2y ago
Mind revealing the product/site or are they going to do an upcoming hn launch..?
- CharlieDigital 2y ago
  He has asked to not reveal it and not likely to reveal it. I asked him about it because I think the press would be insane, but it's a niche B2B SaaS and he doesn't want the "made with AI" branding to hurt the image of the product from a customer perspective. Second concern is people trying to hack it in case the LLM took shortcuts on security. But I can say that as a 20yr+ eng. and having worked with him on a prior startup, I'm super, super impressed how far he got by himself in under 4 months. Basically a full-blown industry specific CRM with Stripe integration, OCR from mobile web app, desktop web app, marketplace. He himself is concerned that it's the end of SaaS as he thinks anyone can build these things now, but I think there's still a bit of a chasm when it comes to some ancillary pieces like databases.
  - bigiain 2y ago
    > he doesn't want the "made with AI" branding to hurt the image of the product from a customer perspective That's kinda telling.
    - CharlieDigital 2y ago
      At the same time, he's really helping small business customers by offering a competitive product at a fraction of the price of the dominant vendors in the space (a duopoly) because he has no overhead. Customers love the product. No ads or marketing and he's got 30ish customers via word of mouth.
      - rsingel 2y ago
        Interesting but a CRM built by a non-technical person using AI? I think that's pretty irresponsible - building a product that holds PII without any concern for security. Not to mention that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
    - dmos62 2y ago
      I ran into a Show HN thread not so long ago where people were outright hostile to a minimally technical developer that did something actually impressive, in my eyes at least, but he was open about using AI for everything. I've not seen a more badly mannered thread on HN. It's like some people are triggered by non-veterans programming with AI. I think everyone understands the downsides. Why get angry about it?
      - 9rx 2y ago
        It is inconceivable that someone would become angry on the internet. You're going to turn off the computer and run outside as fast as possible if you sense that your emotions are even just ever so slightly shifting from enjoyment. Sarcasm is the internet default, though. Perhaps you didn't quite pick up on it that time?
        2y ago
indigodaddy 2y ago
I've been enjoying just trying to one-shot little pages that I think are useful with v0.dev. It does a pretty good job and I like that I can just one-button deploy to my Vercel account (which "just works"). Here's one I did today: https://v0-github-repo-stream.vercel.app/ https://v0-github-repo-stream.vercel.app/
- indigodaddy 2y ago
  One more for fun :) https://retro-computing-stream.onrender.com/ https://retro-computing-stream.onrender.com/