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Think the hope and idea is there’s concrete agreements established before the 90 days are up

jwilber 1y ago
What makes you think this? Separate, possibly unrelated question: what was trump’s goal when he created and rug pulled the Trump coin?
- dcow 1y ago
  The fact that what they’ve been saying all along is that the goal of the reciprocal tariffs is to renegotiate with all countries for a more fair economic playing field. Many people aren’t so fickle as to just assume everything the party they don’t like is doing is insane and a big conspiracy to insider trade and ruin the world.
  - fzeroracer 1y ago
    That's what they say but we literally went through this whole mess not even two months ago with Canada and Mexico. He's already showed he's insane and cannot be negotiated with.
  - Kbelicius 1y ago
    > The fact that what they’ve been saying all along They weren't saying that all along. They were saying that tariffs are a tool that will be used to reindustrialize the USA.
    - michaelmrose 1y ago
      While also saying they were going to be a replacement for the IRS and to stop illegal immigrantion and drugs and force Canada to become the 51st state. Full on grandmas off her meds level nonsense.
  - apical_dendrite 1y ago
    The President's advisors are saying multiple contradictory things. You're right that they're saying that the reciprocal tariffs are a negotiating ploy, which implies that they'll negotiate a much lower rate. But at the same time they're also saying that they're going to use the tariffs to raise enough revenue to replace income taxes as the main way of funding the government, which implies that the tariffs will stay high. Then they're also saying that the tariffs will be used to support domestic manufacturing, which implies that the tariffs will stay high and predictable. It doesn't make sense that the tariff policy can be both leverage in a negotiation with the ultimate goal eliminating trade barriers and also so high and predictable that they can raise something the 10-20% of GDP. The logical conclusion is that there is no plan here - we're living in a world like England under Henry VIII, where everything is done based on the whim of the king, and the advisors try to justify it ex post facto.
netsharc 1y ago
And if he has one of his McDiarrhea's, what's going to stop him from using that newest agreement as toilet paper?
microtonal 1y ago
Even if that was the idea, the agreements are worth less than the paper they are written on. He is boo-ing and shredding trade agreements that he made himself during his first term. He says one thing one day and the complete opposite the next day.
SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
The USMCA agreement wasn't worth the paper HE SIGNED on when he decided he wanted to change the terms of that concrete agreement.
Pxtl 1y ago
Oh, like CUSMA/USMCA/T-MEC/NAFTA2? Canada and Mexico say hi.

What makes you think this? Separate, possibly unrelated question: what was trump’s goal when he created and rug pulled the Trump coin?

dcow 1y ago
The fact that what they’ve been saying all along is that the goal of the reciprocal tariffs is to renegotiate with all countries for a more fair economic playing field. Many people aren’t so fickle as to just assume everything the party they don’t like is doing is insane and a big conspiracy to insider trade and ruin the world.
- fzeroracer 1y ago
  That's what they say but we literally went through this whole mess not even two months ago with Canada and Mexico. He's already showed he's insane and cannot be negotiated with.
- Kbelicius 1y ago
  > The fact that what they’ve been saying all along They weren't saying that all along. They were saying that tariffs are a tool that will be used to reindustrialize the USA.
  - michaelmrose 1y ago
    While also saying they were going to be a replacement for the IRS and to stop illegal immigrantion and drugs and force Canada to become the 51st state. Full on grandmas off her meds level nonsense.
- apical_dendrite 1y ago
  The President's advisors are saying multiple contradictory things. You're right that they're saying that the reciprocal tariffs are a negotiating ploy, which implies that they'll negotiate a much lower rate. But at the same time they're also saying that they're going to use the tariffs to raise enough revenue to replace income taxes as the main way of funding the government, which implies that the tariffs will stay high. Then they're also saying that the tariffs will be used to support domestic manufacturing, which implies that the tariffs will stay high and predictable. It doesn't make sense that the tariff policy can be both leverage in a negotiation with the ultimate goal eliminating trade barriers and also so high and predictable that they can raise something the 10-20% of GDP. The logical conclusion is that there is no plan here - we're living in a world like England under Henry VIII, where everything is done based on the whim of the king, and the advisors try to justify it ex post facto.

netsharc 1y ago

And if he has one of his McDiarrhea's, what's going to stop him from using that newest agreement as toilet paper?

microtonal 1y ago

Even if that was the idea, the agreements are worth less than the paper they are written on. He is boo-ing and shredding trade agreements that he made himself during his first term. He says one thing one day and the complete opposite the next day.

SketchySeaBeast 1y ago

The USMCA agreement wasn't worth the paper HE SIGNED on when he decided he wanted to change the terms of that concrete agreement.

Pxtl 1y ago

Oh, like CUSMA/USMCA/T-MEC/NAFTA2? Canada and Mexico say hi.