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> And what happens to those coders? For that matter--what happens to all the other jobs at risk of being replaced by AI? Some will manage to remain in their fi

> And what happens to those coders? For that matter--what happens to all the other jobs at risk of being replaced by AI? Some will manage to remain in their field, most won't. > Where are all the high paying jobs these disenfranchised laborers will flock to when their previous careers are made obsolete? They don't exist. Instead they'll take low-paying jobs that can't (yet) be automated. Maybe they'll work in factories [1]. > I seriously oppose such a future, and if that makes me a Luddite, so be it. Like I said, the Luddites were right, in the short term. In the long term, we don't know. Maybe we'll live in a post-scarcity Star Trek world where human labor has been completely devalued, or maybe we'll revert to a feudal society of property owners and indentured servants. [1] https://www.newsweek.com/bessent-fired-federal-workers-manufacturing-jobs-tariffs-2056700 https://www.newsweek.com/bessent-fired-federal-workers-manuf...

jplusequalt 1y ago
>They don't exist. Instead they'll take low-paying jobs that can't (yet) be automated. Maybe they'll work in factories >or maybe we'll revert to a feudal society of property owners and indentured servants. We as the workers in society have the power to see that this doesn't happen. We just need to organize. Unionize. Boycott. Organize with people in your community to spread worker solidarity.
- DrillShopper 1y ago
  There is no industry that I have worked in that fights against creating or joining unions tooth, claw, and nail quite like software engineers.
  - jplusequalt 1y ago
    I think more and more workers are warming up to unions. As wages in software continue to be oppressed, I think we'll see an increase in unionization efforts for software engineers.
    - CamperBob2 1y ago
      "Gee, it seems that people in my profession are in danger of being replaced by AI. I wonder if there's anything I can do to help speed up that process..."
      - tdeck 1y ago
        The best plan is to wait until your bargaining position has been thoroughly destroyed rather than taking any action while you still have some power.
        CamperBob2 1y ago
        If that were indeed the case, your employer might not be investing so much in automation. They don't want to give up bargaining power any more than you do.
      - jplusequalt 1y ago
        Worker solidarity works. Whether you agree with the methods or not is irrelevant.
    - alwa 1y ago
      Software engineer wages? Oppressed? This is work that averages well over 6 figures—for a single worker, for desk work—in the US? https://www.indeed.com/career/software-engineer/salaries https://www.indeed.com/career/software-engineer/salaries https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-...
      - saagarjha 1y ago
        Yes, oppressed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...

jplusequalt 1y ago

>They don't exist. Instead they'll take low-paying jobs that can't (yet) be automated. Maybe they'll work in factories >or maybe we'll revert to a feudal society of property owners and indentured servants. We as the workers in society have the power to see that this doesn't happen. We just need to organize. Unionize. Boycott. Organize with people in your community to spread worker solidarity.

DrillShopper 1y ago
There is no industry that I have worked in that fights against creating or joining unions tooth, claw, and nail quite like software engineers.
- jplusequalt 1y ago
  I think more and more workers are warming up to unions. As wages in software continue to be oppressed, I think we'll see an increase in unionization efforts for software engineers.
  - CamperBob2 1y ago
    "Gee, it seems that people in my profession are in danger of being replaced by AI. I wonder if there's anything I can do to help speed up that process..."
    - tdeck 1y ago
      The best plan is to wait until your bargaining position has been thoroughly destroyed rather than taking any action while you still have some power.
      - CamperBob2 1y ago
        If that were indeed the case, your employer might not be investing so much in automation. They don't want to give up bargaining power any more than you do.
    - jplusequalt 1y ago
      Worker solidarity works. Whether you agree with the methods or not is irrelevant.
  - alwa 1y ago
    Software engineer wages? Oppressed? This is work that averages well over 6 figures—for a single worker, for desk work—in the US? https://www.indeed.com/career/software-engineer/salaries https://www.indeed.com/career/software-engineer/salaries https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-...
    - saagarjha 1y ago
      Yes, oppressed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...