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>antivax rural areas I would be careful with what size brush you are painting. >There are, of course, the familiar anti-vaxxers, who spoke up as early as Febr

>antivax rural areas I would be careful with what size brush you are painting. >There are, of course, the familiar anti-vaxxers, who spoke up as early as February with concerns about a mandatory vaccine. There are also new groups. One is connected to far-right extremism and conspiracy theories (about the virus and otherwise). The other, termed “vaccine-hesitant,” is more surprising. It includes members of the opposite demographic — highly educated, liberal, not libertarian >While a majority of those unwilling to get a vaccine are Republicans, 42% of Democrats agree with them https://harvardpolitics.com/the-new-anti-vax/ https://harvardpolitics.com/the-new-anti-vax/

roguecoder 2y ago
The anti-vaxx movement was really strong among ex-hippies when I was growing up. It's all the same people who believe in homeopathy and chiropractors. Part of the problem is presenting it as a choice makes people think it is legitimate to choose "no". I believe the consequence of not vaccinating should be social exclusion until you catch up: anything else is stochastically depraved heart murder.
- DrillShopper 2y ago
  > I believe the consequence of not vaccinating should be social exclusion until you catch up I think it should be even stronger than that: no public services or public spaces for you. No driver's license, no public school, no library card, nothing, unless you can demonstrate a medical reason why you cannot receive a specific vaccine, and then you get an exception for only that one. If you want to live in your own world where you're disconnected from society then that's fine, you can do that, but it doesn't and shouldn't come consequence free given the damage you can do to others.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
The vaccine hesitant, to my knowledge, still gave their kids the MMR. They have just been sceptical of newer vaccines, e.g. for Covid or the flue. That’s probably a long-term problem. But it isn’t creating pockets of measles- and polio-afflicted kids.

roguecoder 2y ago

The anti-vaxx movement was really strong among ex-hippies when I was growing up. It's all the same people who believe in homeopathy and chiropractors. Part of the problem is presenting it as a choice makes people think it is legitimate to choose "no". I believe the consequence of not vaccinating should be social exclusion until you catch up: anything else is stochastically depraved heart murder.

DrillShopper 2y ago
> I believe the consequence of not vaccinating should be social exclusion until you catch up I think it should be even stronger than that: no public services or public spaces for you. No driver's license, no public school, no library card, nothing, unless you can demonstrate a medical reason why you cannot receive a specific vaccine, and then you get an exception for only that one. If you want to live in your own world where you're disconnected from society then that's fine, you can do that, but it doesn't and shouldn't come consequence free given the damage you can do to others.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

The vaccine hesitant, to my knowledge, still gave their kids the MMR. They have just been sceptical of newer vaccines, e.g. for Covid or the flue. That’s probably a long-term problem. But it isn’t creating pockets of measles- and polio-afflicted kids.