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Common sense is suspending US travel. I did that last month.

by buyucu 2y ago

BrandoElFollito 2y ago
So did I - and I kinda liked the place (not the border police, it seemed as if they hated me and hated the fact that I was coming to spend money there).
- wat10000 2y ago
  CBP hates everybody, citizen and non-citizen alike.
  - Maultasche 2y ago
    Agreed. As a citizen, most interactions with border control are unpleasant. The only positive experience I've ever had was at a quiet border crossing in Maine where I met what was probably the country's only friendly CBP agent.
  - kashunstva 2y ago
    Indeed. I'm a dual citizen - U.S. and that country to the north that Dear Leader keeps threatening. I have to cross the border relatively often and have noticed shift in tone in the last few months. Instead of asking me where I'm going, they have been asking me "where do you want to go." It's inconsequential, really; and they've never truly harassed me. It's just a subtle power flex that seems new, as if they would really prefer to deny me entry.
jesterson 2y ago
Would you elaborate why? (without being vague) I assume it's not common sense just because you did it? Issues with border patrol can happen in any country. If they have bad mood, or you suddenly decided to piss them off, they will do their best to make your life harder. The US is not the best or worst to that matter. People who chose working as border patrol are not the smartest people out there (otherwise it is unlikely they would choose working at border patrol). So I understand all precautions but saying its "common sense" not traveling there is a huge stretch IMHO.
- buyucu 2y ago
  The news is full of stories where random travelers are detained for multiple weeks on the US border. I don't want that in my life. As simple as that.
  - jesterson 2y ago
    Would you share a link or two? Even what you say is true, I doubt those travelers were random ones
    - buyucu 2y ago
      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-border-1.7483021 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-bo... https://www.dw.com/en/german-nationals-us-immigration-detained-interrogation-ice-donald-trump/a-71987211 https://www.dw.com/en/german-nationals-us-immigration-detain... https://lamag.com/latravel/detained-at-the-border-what-foreign-visitors-face-when-entering-the-us https://lamag.com/latravel/detained-at-the-border-what-forei... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tufts-student-grabbed-off-street-by-immigration-officers-scores-legal-win-has-case-moved-to-vermont/ar-AA1Cjzwj https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tufts-student-grabbed-off-... I really don't want this kind of nonsense in my life. Why would I visit a country that thinks this kind of treatment is okay?
      - jesterson 2y ago
        Thank you for the links. The first case is a woman who get her visa cancelled, then she engaged in some shady scheme to get entry permit, which was spotted by ICE. In ANY other country it will likely cause detention. Rest of articles state vague cases of travelers being sent back home at US border. Again nothing new here, at every country it up to border enforcement to make final decision regarding entry. Its nothing but regular "treatment". If you don't want this - that's certainly your choice, but I really would like to hear about cases where legitimate travelers are thrown into detention centers and kept there for weeks. Something tells me there is no such stories, but I would still like to see the evidence.

Common sense is suspending US travel. I did that last month.

by buyucu 2y ago

Common sense is suspending US travel. I did that last month.

So did I - and I kinda liked the place (not the border police, it seemed as if they hated me and hated the fact that I was coming to spend money there).

wat10000 2y ago
CBP hates everybody, citizen and non-citizen alike.
- Maultasche 2y ago
  Agreed. As a citizen, most interactions with border control are unpleasant. The only positive experience I've ever had was at a quiet border crossing in Maine where I met what was probably the country's only friendly CBP agent.
- kashunstva 2y ago
  Indeed. I'm a dual citizen - U.S. and that country to the north that Dear Leader keeps threatening. I have to cross the border relatively often and have noticed shift in tone in the last few months. Instead of asking me where I'm going, they have been asking me "where do you want to go." It's inconsequential, really; and they've never truly harassed me. It's just a subtle power flex that seems new, as if they would really prefer to deny me entry.

jesterson 2y ago

Would you elaborate why? (without being vague) I assume it's not common sense just because you did it? Issues with border patrol can happen in any country. If they have bad mood, or you suddenly decided to piss them off, they will do their best to make your life harder. The US is not the best or worst to that matter. People who chose working as border patrol are not the smartest people out there (otherwise it is unlikely they would choose working at border patrol). So I understand all precautions but saying its "common sense" not traveling there is a huge stretch IMHO.

buyucu 2y ago
The news is full of stories where random travelers are detained for multiple weeks on the US border. I don't want that in my life. As simple as that.
- jesterson 2y ago
  Would you share a link or two? Even what you say is true, I doubt those travelers were random ones
  - buyucu 2y ago
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-border-1.7483021 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canadian-detained-us-bo... https://www.dw.com/en/german-nationals-us-immigration-detained-interrogation-ice-donald-trump/a-71987211 https://www.dw.com/en/german-nationals-us-immigration-detain... https://lamag.com/latravel/detained-at-the-border-what-foreign-visitors-face-when-entering-the-us https://lamag.com/latravel/detained-at-the-border-what-forei... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tufts-student-grabbed-off-street-by-immigration-officers-scores-legal-win-has-case-moved-to-vermont/ar-AA1Cjzwj https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tufts-student-grabbed-off-... I really don't want this kind of nonsense in my life. Why would I visit a country that thinks this kind of treatment is okay?
    - jesterson 2y ago
      Thank you for the links. The first case is a woman who get her visa cancelled, then she engaged in some shady scheme to get entry permit, which was spotted by ICE. In ANY other country it will likely cause detention. Rest of articles state vague cases of travelers being sent back home at US border. Again nothing new here, at every country it up to border enforcement to make final decision regarding entry. Its nothing but regular "treatment". If you don't want this - that's certainly your choice, but I really would like to hear about cases where legitimate travelers are thrown into detention centers and kept there for weeks. Something tells me there is no such stories, but I would still like to see the evidence.