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> might as well assert your rights I wonder what could happen to citizens who weren’t born in the US Given what we’ve seen recently. Could it be possible they
by nico 2y ago
> might as well assert your rights
I wonder what could happen to citizens who weren’t born in the US
Given what we’ve seen recently. Could it be possible they would refer these people to the state department to revoke their citizenships?
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- wat10000 2y agoAs things currently stand, this wouldn't qualify for denaturalization. Even the Trump proposals have been to do it for fraudulently obtaining citizenship (e.g. lying about a criminal record), not general crimes, and certainly not for non-crimes like annoying CBP. But next week it could all be different.
- senderista 2y agoI expect the first denaturalization case over political speech to be only a matter of time--perhaps weeks at this rate?
- nico 2y ago> fraudulently obtaining citizenship It seems like they are claiming that “not saying you intended to protest” is essentially lying on the initial visa application, thus fraud and grounds for revocation of residence and deportation So, if CBP confiscated someone’s laptop or phone (because they don’t want to unlock it), then break into it, and find social media posts against genocide, and/or against the Trump administration… given how they’ve acted, who knows what they’d do
- wat10000 2y agoI'm deeply displeased with their treatment of legal residents here, but denaturalizing a citizen is about a million times more severe than deporting a legal resident alien. The executive has pretty much unlimited authority to decide which non-citizens are allowed to enter or stay within the country, and has for a long time, whereas that's not the case with denaturalization.
- ty6853 2y agoDoes knowingly blowing up a citizen with a drone count as denaturalization?
- wat10000 2y agoCase in point. People are still talking about that one guy more than all the other victims combined.
- nico 2y agoNot sure about denaturalization, but this is getting pretty extreme already (USCIS, effective immediately, is screening immigrants for criticism of Israel): https://www.reddit.com/r/UnitedNations/comments/1jw8gyv/all_us_immigrants_to_be_screened_for_israel/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UnitedNations/comments/1jw8gyv/all_...
- wat10000 2y agoIt is, but this is still far less severe than denaturalizing a citizen. The executive has pretty much total discretion over which non-citizens they allow into the country. That power isn't anything new, it just wasn't abused like this before. Denaturalization for anything besides fraudulently obtaining citizenship would be a serious change, not just applying existing power in ugly ways.