The person I responded to did not cared about China situation or self-harm - they analyzed it only in terms of how America responds. Note that the risk of "and

The person I responded to did not cared about China situation or self-harm - they analyzed it only in terms of how America responds. Note that the risk of "and America will attack us more and more" was not present at all. The risks were expressed only in terms of "China will not succeed in fixing America". Which, I really do not think is China goal at all anyway. > Even The Economist said the most 'rational' response from Europe was not to impose counter-tariffs, but simply continue on as best they could without them and let the majority of the pain fall on the US. Isn't it always the pattern with Trump and conservatives in general? The most rational person is supposed to let them bully you without response. Again and again and it never works. Their aggression and harm they cause is just going up with each cycle. And it is because what is conventionally called "rational" in this context amounts to "be nice submissive enabler else their actions are your fault". American tariffs are made in fairly dumb way. They still harm Europe, China and everyone else great deal. Surely it is possible to create reciprocal tariffs that will actually harm America more. Even America could have done tariffs in smarter way. And the sooner Trump supporters are actually harmed, the sooner harm to Europe stops.