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You're used to reading documents on the web. I am used to reading them on paper, in the terminal using man (strictly, troff and less), in the web browser and in

You're used to reading documents on the web. I am used to reading them on paper, in the terminal using man (strictly, troff and less), in the web browser and in a split or tab in vim (also using troff). I wish people would stop this "we" business where they purport to speak for everyone. Man pages are superior because they don't give you the opportunity to add all the other stupid markup, animations, css etc people put in HTML documentation. The key thing is that they're consistent. Always in the same format. Man pages don't have to be in troff. And as you illustrated, nothing stops you from generating web pages from them.

rglullis 2y ago
> I wish people would stop this "we" business where they purport to speak for everyone. That has become a strong signal regarding the (lack of) quality in any argument. Anyone using this cheap rhetoric trick gets an immediate penalty in my "how seriously should I take this person?" book.
tasn 2y ago
> I wish people would stop this "we" business where they purport to speak for everyone. Saying that we are all used to consuming content in a web browser is hardly a controversial comment, especially when posting on HN which is accessed using a web browser. You most likely read my comment on a web browser and wrote it on a web browser. Additionally, you said yourself the sentence before the one I quoted that you are used to reading documents on the web, so it seems like this "we" also applies to you. So I'm just baffled by both this and the sibling comment.
- milesrout 2y ago
  In full context, it was implicitly "as opposed to anywhere else". I look at many documents every day. 90% of them are PDFs and most were Word docs before that. Pages on the web are incredibly unreliable. In the programming world random websites are more commonly used but I don't think they are actually much more reliable. A lot of online resources are just some guy's blog post. Sometimes they're great. Sometimes not.
  - tasn 2y ago
    No, I wasn't implying "as opposed to anywhere else". I spend much more time a day in the terminal than the browser (todos are in vim, knowledge in vimwiki, code in vim etc), but I realize not everyone is this way and the web is the much more common medium.

rglullis 2y ago

> I wish people would stop this "we" business where they purport to speak for everyone. That has become a strong signal regarding the (lack of) quality in any argument. Anyone using this cheap rhetoric trick gets an immediate penalty in my "how seriously should I take this person?" book.

tasn 2y ago

> I wish people would stop this "we" business where they purport to speak for everyone. Saying that we are all used to consuming content in a web browser is hardly a controversial comment, especially when posting on HN which is accessed using a web browser. You most likely read my comment on a web browser and wrote it on a web browser. Additionally, you said yourself the sentence before the one I quoted that you are used to reading documents on the web, so it seems like this "we" also applies to you. So I'm just baffled by both this and the sibling comment.

milesrout 2y ago
In full context, it was implicitly "as opposed to anywhere else". I look at many documents every day. 90% of them are PDFs and most were Word docs before that. Pages on the web are incredibly unreliable. In the programming world random websites are more commonly used but I don't think they are actually much more reliable. A lot of online resources are just some guy's blog post. Sometimes they're great. Sometimes not.
- tasn 2y ago
  No, I wasn't implying "as opposed to anywhere else". I spend much more time a day in the terminal than the browser (todos are in vim, knowledge in vimwiki, code in vim etc), but I realize not everyone is this way and the web is the much more common medium.