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I'm just not going to go to the US frankly. Only reason I would is tourism, and I like my vacations harassment & risk of detainment free

by Havoc 2y ago

sipofwater 2y ago
"US expected a big travel year, but overseas visitors — angered by Trump — are heading elsewhere": https://apnews.com/article/tourism-us-travel-trump-visitors-international-14c31b490fd382d09ad5cae625ddc937 https://apnews.com/article/tourism-us-travel-trump-visitors-... (apnews.com/article/tourism-us-travel-trump-visitors-international-14c31b490fd382d09ad5cae625ddc937)
tengwar2 2y ago
I stopped going when they introduced fingerprinting. This is not just a point of principle. While it is not known whether fingerprints are unique (as is often claimed), it is known that the information that is stored about fingerprints and which is used as the basis for matching records is not unique. The equivalent of hash collisions exist. Fingerprints are great as corroborative evidence, but if they are used as the means to find a suspect, you don't want your fingerprints in the system when Cletus Thugfester (the actual perpetrator) has matching prints that are not in the system. Far too likely that you'd get hauled across the Atlantic on this basis, then have to deal with the "justice" system over there.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  Fingerprints are known to not be unique. Matches have been found between two people.
  - fhdkweig 2y ago
    Here is one example https://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/06/mayfield.report/ https://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/06/mayfield.report/ regarding the Madrid train bombing.
    - tengwar2 2y ago
      No, that's the distinction I am drawing. That match was on the basis of the information recorded for computer comparison. Basically it records certain features such as the ends of lines. It does not record the whole fingerprint. It is know that these records are not unique. We don't know the same for the full fingerprint.
cardanome 2y ago
Same. I wish I had visited the US back in the days, especially pre-9/11 times when flying was super hassle free and people were optimistic about the future. Sadly I was still quite young. Oh well, there are many other beautiful countries in the Americas. And especially south-America is substantially cheaper.
- WorldPeas 2y ago
  My family has a large bottle of wine my mother took from Italy to New York in the 90s. Wild how the times change.
  - dude187 2y ago
    That hasn't changed, they could still bring a bottle back if they choose
    - WorldPeas 2y ago
      I'm surprised they'd let you do so in the claim luggage, but in this case it was carry-on. The story goes my mother just walked through customs and got on the plane with it.
      - dude187 2y ago
        Yeah carry on got the stupid liquid ban that's still around, but I don't think much if anything got banned from checked luggage after 9/11. Just the standard stuff like batteries and other things that could have issues in an unpressurized non temperature controlled hold. Even carry on got a lot better than it used to be in the days right after that. Like I'm pretty sure they had banned lighters for a bit (and a lot of people assume they still are) but they're explicitly allowed and I throw mine right into the scanner bin every time I fly. Not even being able to carry in a sealed bottle of water and having to take your shoes off is stupid, but about the extent of what's left. No more keeping all liquids (what even counts as a liquid?) in a ziplock bag and having to take it out, and even laptops can stay in with the new scanners they're rolling out I've carried on an inflatable life vest with an active CO2 cartridge and that's also listed as fine. Though it did get flagged and secondary screened because it was in my bag, even though they don't say you have to leave it out. In general the more you fly if you pay attention, you can pretty much know what will trigger it if you put it in your bag. Metal water bottle in the bag? Your bag is getting pulled, every time. I've even told them right where to look lol. Left out and it goes right through.
sipofwater 2y ago
"‘It’s like our friend started a fist fight with us’: These Europeans are skipping US travel": https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/travel/european-travelers-skipping-us-trips/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/travel/european-travelers-ski... (www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/travel/european-travelers-skipping-us-trips/index.html)
pandemic_region 2y ago
My government has issued a travel warning statement aimed at those traveling to the US. Much like the statements given for Ukraine pre-war, Russia, some chaotic African nations of nations in the Middle-East.

I'm just not going to go to the US frankly. Only reason I would is tourism, and I like my vacations harassment & risk of detainment free

by Havoc 2y ago

I'm just not going to go to the US frankly. Only reason I would is tourism, and I like my vacations harassment & risk of detainment free

sipofwater 2y ago

"US expected a big travel year, but overseas visitors — angered by Trump — are heading elsewhere": https://apnews.com/article/tourism-us-travel-trump-visitors-international-14c31b490fd382d09ad5cae625ddc937 https://apnews.com/article/tourism-us-travel-trump-visitors-... (apnews.com/article/tourism-us-travel-trump-visitors-international-14c31b490fd382d09ad5cae625ddc937)

tengwar2 2y ago

I stopped going when they introduced fingerprinting. This is not just a point of principle. While it is not known whether fingerprints are unique (as is often claimed), it is known that the information that is stored about fingerprints and which is used as the basis for matching records is not unique. The equivalent of hash collisions exist. Fingerprints are great as corroborative evidence, but if they are used as the means to find a suspect, you don't want your fingerprints in the system when Cletus Thugfester (the actual perpetrator) has matching prints that are not in the system. Far too likely that you'd get hauled across the Atlantic on this basis, then have to deal with the "justice" system over there.

kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
Fingerprints are known to not be unique. Matches have been found between two people.
- fhdkweig 2y ago
  Here is one example https://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/06/mayfield.report/ https://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/06/mayfield.report/ regarding the Madrid train bombing.
  - tengwar2 2y ago
    No, that's the distinction I am drawing. That match was on the basis of the information recorded for computer comparison. Basically it records certain features such as the ends of lines. It does not record the whole fingerprint. It is know that these records are not unique. We don't know the same for the full fingerprint.

cardanome 2y ago

Same. I wish I had visited the US back in the days, especially pre-9/11 times when flying was super hassle free and people were optimistic about the future. Sadly I was still quite young. Oh well, there are many other beautiful countries in the Americas. And especially south-America is substantially cheaper.

WorldPeas 2y ago
My family has a large bottle of wine my mother took from Italy to New York in the 90s. Wild how the times change.
- dude187 2y ago
  That hasn't changed, they could still bring a bottle back if they choose
  - WorldPeas 2y ago
    I'm surprised they'd let you do so in the claim luggage, but in this case it was carry-on. The story goes my mother just walked through customs and got on the plane with it.
    - dude187 2y ago
      Yeah carry on got the stupid liquid ban that's still around, but I don't think much if anything got banned from checked luggage after 9/11. Just the standard stuff like batteries and other things that could have issues in an unpressurized non temperature controlled hold. Even carry on got a lot better than it used to be in the days right after that. Like I'm pretty sure they had banned lighters for a bit (and a lot of people assume they still are) but they're explicitly allowed and I throw mine right into the scanner bin every time I fly. Not even being able to carry in a sealed bottle of water and having to take your shoes off is stupid, but about the extent of what's left. No more keeping all liquids (what even counts as a liquid?) in a ziplock bag and having to take it out, and even laptops can stay in with the new scanners they're rolling out I've carried on an inflatable life vest with an active CO2 cartridge and that's also listed as fine. Though it did get flagged and secondary screened because it was in my bag, even though they don't say you have to leave it out. In general the more you fly if you pay attention, you can pretty much know what will trigger it if you put it in your bag. Metal water bottle in the bag? Your bag is getting pulled, every time. I've even told them right where to look lol. Left out and it goes right through.

sipofwater 2y ago

"‘It’s like our friend started a fist fight with us’: These Europeans are skipping US travel": https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/travel/european-travelers-skipping-us-trips/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/travel/european-travelers-ski... (www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/travel/european-travelers-skipping-us-trips/index.html)

pandemic_region 2y ago

My government has issued a travel warning statement aimed at those traveling to the US. Much like the statements given for Ukraine pre-war, Russia, some chaotic African nations of nations in the Middle-East.