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The Rust community is unfortunately plagued by this subset of devs who are zealous (and downright toxic) in their shilling for their favorite language. Before

The Rust community is unfortunately plagued by this subset of devs who are zealous (and downright toxic) in their shilling for their favorite language. Before anyone gets triggered and starts typing up a reply: "SUBSET" is the word I used.

Ygg2 2y ago
So is any big enough community. Look at that "Why Go?" discussions, and you'll see a lot more loud, obnoxious C# devs, but somehow Rust is the worst. There was also a Rewrite it in LISP post[1] fan. Where is the "The Lisp community is unfortunately plagued by this subset of devs who are zealous (and downright toxic) in their shilling for their favorite language." [1]https://github.com/microsoft/typescript-go/discussions/411#discussioncomment-12473646 https://github.com/microsoft/typescript-go/discussions/411#d...
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- angra_mainyu 2y ago
  .....and you got triggered. Somehow in the past 3-4 years it's only been that subset of Rust devs that have been wailing about: "WHY NOT REWRITE IT IN RUST?". Often they're mostly the same type: anime pfp, walls of text of pompous technobabble as if they were some elite caste of arcane cyberpriests preaching the gospel of Rust, etc. There's a reason "just rewrite it in Rust" has become such a meme.
  - Ygg2 2y ago
    > .....and you got triggered. Sure, you got me. If someone says the earth is actually a cube, I have to go defend the spherical chads. In this case, it's the sheer disconnect between RIIR askers, and the sheer number of people painting Rust devs with a continent wide brush. It's very in-group vs out-group reasoning. Let's demonstrate it. For example: I'm a Java dev, and I see a Java dev, being a moron, so I'll say "What a moron". But if that guy was a C# dev, I'm going to say "C# devs are morons". See the error committed here? > There's a reason "just rewrite it in Rust" has become such a meme. Just because something is a meme, doesn't make it true, either. Like it was true around the time of Rust 1.0. But that's been like 10 years ago. It isn't even the worst part about Rust community.
    - angra_mainyu 2y ago
      >In this case, it's the sheer disconnect between RIIR askers, and the sheer number of people painting Rust devs with a continent wide brush. I have no idea how you can accuse me of this when I made a big disclaimer in my original comment: >Before anyone gets triggered and starts typing up a reply: "SUBSET" is the word I used.
      - Ygg2 2y ago
        > "SUBSET" is the word I used. So? There is a subset of X lang (both bigger and smaller than Rust), complaining why not rewrite in X. But only Rust devs ever get the flak. Because it's a played out meme, or something. Or it triggers the Rust dev, whatever.
  - neonsunset 2y ago
    > caste of arcane cyberpriests preaching the gospel of Hey, that's a productive attitude when attempting to fix CI! (or figuring out why smaller compiler output performs worse)
- angra_mainyu 2y ago
  FWIW, Go used to have that issue of "I'm a 10x dev writing type-safe compiled microservices in Go (not golang) wowzers". But that subset of devs has largely disappeared/moved on to other langs.

Ygg2 2y ago

So is any big enough community. Look at that "Why Go?" discussions, and you'll see a lot more loud, obnoxious C# devs, but somehow Rust is the worst. There was also a Rewrite it in LISP post[1] fan. Where is the "The Lisp community is unfortunately plagued by this subset of devs who are zealous (and downright toxic) in their shilling for their favorite language." [1]https://github.com/microsoft/typescript-go/discussions/411#discussioncomment-12473646 https://github.com/microsoft/typescript-go/discussions/411#d...

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angra_mainyu 2y ago
.....and you got triggered. Somehow in the past 3-4 years it's only been that subset of Rust devs that have been wailing about: "WHY NOT REWRITE IT IN RUST?". Often they're mostly the same type: anime pfp, walls of text of pompous technobabble as if they were some elite caste of arcane cyberpriests preaching the gospel of Rust, etc. There's a reason "just rewrite it in Rust" has become such a meme.
- Ygg2 2y ago
  > .....and you got triggered. Sure, you got me. If someone says the earth is actually a cube, I have to go defend the spherical chads. In this case, it's the sheer disconnect between RIIR askers, and the sheer number of people painting Rust devs with a continent wide brush. It's very in-group vs out-group reasoning. Let's demonstrate it. For example: I'm a Java dev, and I see a Java dev, being a moron, so I'll say "What a moron". But if that guy was a C# dev, I'm going to say "C# devs are morons". See the error committed here? > There's a reason "just rewrite it in Rust" has become such a meme. Just because something is a meme, doesn't make it true, either. Like it was true around the time of Rust 1.0. But that's been like 10 years ago. It isn't even the worst part about Rust community.
  - angra_mainyu 2y ago
    >In this case, it's the sheer disconnect between RIIR askers, and the sheer number of people painting Rust devs with a continent wide brush. I have no idea how you can accuse me of this when I made a big disclaimer in my original comment: >Before anyone gets triggered and starts typing up a reply: "SUBSET" is the word I used.
    - Ygg2 2y ago
      > "SUBSET" is the word I used. So? There is a subset of X lang (both bigger and smaller than Rust), complaining why not rewrite in X. But only Rust devs ever get the flak. Because it's a played out meme, or something. Or it triggers the Rust dev, whatever.
- neonsunset 2y ago
  > caste of arcane cyberpriests preaching the gospel of Hey, that's a productive attitude when attempting to fix CI! (or figuring out why smaller compiler output performs worse)
angra_mainyu 2y ago
FWIW, Go used to have that issue of "I'm a 10x dev writing type-safe compiled microservices in Go (not golang) wowzers". But that subset of devs has largely disappeared/moved on to other langs.