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• tomhow 2y ago
  Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  • sumeno 2y ago
    What about the accusation that I was spreading false rumors? That's far more unkind
    • tomhow 2y ago
      The guidelines apply to everyone. I didn't like that part of their comment either, and the comment would have been better without it, but they were put on the defensive by what had come before and they went on to explain their position. Your phrase "got caught with your hand in the cookie jar" is a swipe that the thread could also have done without. It's no big deal, and it applies to everyone on the subthread; we want everyone to avoid barbs like that on HN.
• tedsanders 2y ago
  The incorrect part is “OpenAI got caught [gaming FrontierMath] a while back.” From a primary source: "OpenAI did not use FrontierMath data to guide the development of o1 or o3, at all.... we only downloaded FrontierMath for our evals long after the training data was frozen, and only looked at o3 FrontierMath results after the final announcement checkpoint was already picked." https://x.com/__nmca__/status/1882563755806281986 https://x.com/__nmca__/status/1882563755806281986