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Trump, Doge Are Trying to Get Around Privacy Laws to Gather Your Personal Info

39 points by leotravis10 1y ago

VaderLied 1y ago
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bryant 1y ago
The main reminder here (not even really a novel takeaway - this ends up happening like clockwork in some shape or form every few generations) is that laws can only be enforced after the damage is done. Short of overwhelming activism e.g in the form of recall elections where applicable, constitutional conventions, etc., the degradation of both the rule of law and the standing of the United States on the world stage will continue for the next 21 months. And there's every reason to believe that voters suffering today will again be swayed through misinformation to vote against their own interests in the November 2026 congressional elections.
- mrangle 1y ago
  I remember saying the same thing about my girlfriend's conservative mother, in my mid-twenties, around the time when people were very worked up over GWB's supposed degradation of US World standing. It was a mistaken sentiment. What I didn't understand then is that they are voting for their interests. It's just that their and your idea of their interests differs, and they're obviously correct in their evaluation. Because they are them and you aren't. Common misperception.
  - quantified 1y ago
    GWB did indeed harm US's standing in the world, quite a bit. It's remarkable how far we've fallen, to be at all nostalgic for that regime.
    - mrangle 1y ago
      That wasn't nostalgia on my end. I was only making an implied point. To remember that era clearly is to know that it is impossible for sentiment to be worse. My point is about the flaws of perception and memory, and regrettably immortal pabulum. US approval varies across all populations, from inception. Some British still refer to us as Colinists, with a hint of disdain. People have always complained about the United States. Which is irrelevant, on balance, in the modern period. What are these complaints about? DJT in general? Same record, different guy. Tariffs? Inevitable regardless of the office holder. Prepared for by both sides, for a long time now. In a complex economy that few to no people in public discussions understand. A bottomless fall along which that particular immortal complaint is always relevant is no fall at all. Which was my implication about the relative silliness of the boilerplate comments. This isn't even a defense of any particular issue. More like a wish for a better breed of critic, if nothing but for a change of pace and interest. Or maybe because we need actually effective critics, to maintain a healthy ecosystem. I mean, "they aren't aware of their own interests" is truly basement tier immature rhetoric. Perhaps it'd be better for the OP to explain how whomever they want to vote for will address opposition voter's perceived most important interests. Otherwise, one can't credibly complain about their vote.
      - quickslowdown 1y ago
        I'm going to just toss the entirety of your comment out to focus on the last line. Yes I can. We all lived through the same 4 years, saw and felt the disaster the first time, and now we're fucking doing it again. If your only policy issue is that you don't think women & gay people deserve rights & you want to be able to use slurs with impunity, you don't have policy positions. Nobody should be falling into the trap of trying to approach these people as rational actors with a coherent idea of what they want or how the country should be run. They've proven to us, twice in the last decade, that they don't have anything resembling a serious idea. I'm sure this comment will get flagged & I'll probably get a note about remaining civil, but fuck this whole comment. You may feel fine hand waving, equivocating, & telling yourself this is "business as usual." Sit this one out. Your head isn't in the game and the stakes are different this time.
Anonbrit 1y ago
If you need unfettered admin access to modernise software, you're incompetent. You might need to be able to run tools that collect schema and sample records as admin, but that should be controlled and auditable. This is true in a moderate size enterprise company, and should be much more true in government IT.

39 points by leotravis10 1y ago

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The main reminder here (not even really a novel takeaway - this ends up happening like clockwork in some shape or form every few generations) is that laws can only be enforced after the damage is done. Short of overwhelming activism e.g in the form of recall elections where applicable, constitutional conventions, etc., the degradation of both the rule of law and the standing of the United States on the world stage will continue for the next 21 months. And there's every reason to believe that voters suffering today will again be swayed through misinformation to vote against their own interests in the November 2026 congressional elections.

mrangle 1y ago
I remember saying the same thing about my girlfriend's conservative mother, in my mid-twenties, around the time when people were very worked up over GWB's supposed degradation of US World standing. It was a mistaken sentiment. What I didn't understand then is that they are voting for their interests. It's just that their and your idea of their interests differs, and they're obviously correct in their evaluation. Because they are them and you aren't. Common misperception.
- quantified 1y ago
  GWB did indeed harm US's standing in the world, quite a bit. It's remarkable how far we've fallen, to be at all nostalgic for that regime.
  - mrangle 1y ago
    That wasn't nostalgia on my end. I was only making an implied point. To remember that era clearly is to know that it is impossible for sentiment to be worse. My point is about the flaws of perception and memory, and regrettably immortal pabulum. US approval varies across all populations, from inception. Some British still refer to us as Colinists, with a hint of disdain. People have always complained about the United States. Which is irrelevant, on balance, in the modern period. What are these complaints about? DJT in general? Same record, different guy. Tariffs? Inevitable regardless of the office holder. Prepared for by both sides, for a long time now. In a complex economy that few to no people in public discussions understand. A bottomless fall along which that particular immortal complaint is always relevant is no fall at all. Which was my implication about the relative silliness of the boilerplate comments. This isn't even a defense of any particular issue. More like a wish for a better breed of critic, if nothing but for a change of pace and interest. Or maybe because we need actually effective critics, to maintain a healthy ecosystem. I mean, "they aren't aware of their own interests" is truly basement tier immature rhetoric. Perhaps it'd be better for the OP to explain how whomever they want to vote for will address opposition voter's perceived most important interests. Otherwise, one can't credibly complain about their vote.
    - quickslowdown 1y ago
      I'm going to just toss the entirety of your comment out to focus on the last line. Yes I can. We all lived through the same 4 years, saw and felt the disaster the first time, and now we're fucking doing it again. If your only policy issue is that you don't think women & gay people deserve rights & you want to be able to use slurs with impunity, you don't have policy positions. Nobody should be falling into the trap of trying to approach these people as rational actors with a coherent idea of what they want or how the country should be run. They've proven to us, twice in the last decade, that they don't have anything resembling a serious idea. I'm sure this comment will get flagged & I'll probably get a note about remaining civil, but fuck this whole comment. You may feel fine hand waving, equivocating, & telling yourself this is "business as usual." Sit this one out. Your head isn't in the game and the stakes are different this time.

Anonbrit 1y ago

If you need unfettered admin access to modernise software, you're incompetent. You might need to be able to run tools that collect schema and sample records as admin, but that should be controlled and auditable. This is true in a moderate size enterprise company, and should be much more true in government IT.