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>This doesn't make much sense. You say it appeared at the right time and was pretty and native on OS X. What better editors deserved the success it had that wer

by batista 14y ago

>This doesn't make much sense. You say it appeared at the right time and was pretty and native on OS X. What better editors deserved the success it had that were available when TextMate was popular? The fact that there wasn't another editor that fulfilled all those "needs" at the time (mainly: simple, native looking) does not mean that it deserved it's success. What I'm saying is, it got its success not because it was better than the competition but because there was no competition. So, I just wish that something better was available at the time with the wanted features (mainly: simple to use and native looking). It would have been better for all in the long run. >I've never understood when people say something or someone doesn't deserve something they've earned. You can earn something for lots of reasons, not always the best of reasons. Nixon got the vote, doesn't mean he also deserved it. >TextMate is successful because lots of people bought it. Who are you to judge what deserves to be successful and what doesn't, especially when history seems to disagree with you? Actually history seems to agree with me. Did you miss the part when the promised 2 was worked on for 6 years, got nowhere, delivered a disappointing alpha and got dump half-heartedly (as in with GPLv3, with the intention to continue commercial development) on GitHub?

mdemare 14y ago
> The fact that there wasn't another editor that fulfilled all those "needs" at the time (mainly: simple, native looking) does not mean that it deserved it's success. What I'm saying is, it got its success not because it was better than the competition but because there was no competition. What kind of doublespeak is that? If there's a race, and you're the only one who shows up, you deserve to win, period.
- KingMob 14y ago
  Uhh, the same doublespeak as pointing out that if you're the only one to show up for a race, you're also the one that came in last?
- batista 14y ago
  >What kind of doublespeak is that? If there's a race, and you're the only one who shows up, you deserve to win, period. It's not doublespeak, it's common sense. If "you're the only one who shows up" it's not much of a race (or a victory).
kemayo 14y ago
> Actually history seems to agree with me. Did you miss the part when the promised 2 was worked on for 6 years, got nowhere, delivered a disappointing alpha and got dump half-heartedly (as in with GPLv3, with the intention to continue commercial development) on GitHub? I dunno. I think the part where he could afford to spend 6 years working on some pie in the sky product which never released, subsisting entirely on income from TextMate 1 which was minimally enhanced during that time, suggests that history agrees with the "TextMate was very successful" view.

by batista 14y ago

mdemare 14y ago

> The fact that there wasn't another editor that fulfilled all those "needs" at the time (mainly: simple, native looking) does not mean that it deserved it's success. What I'm saying is, it got its success not because it was better than the competition but because there was no competition. What kind of doublespeak is that? If there's a race, and you're the only one who shows up, you deserve to win, period.

KingMob 14y ago
Uhh, the same doublespeak as pointing out that if you're the only one to show up for a race, you're also the one that came in last?
batista 14y ago
>What kind of doublespeak is that? If there's a race, and you're the only one who shows up, you deserve to win, period. It's not doublespeak, it's common sense. If "you're the only one who shows up" it's not much of a race (or a victory).

kemayo 14y ago

> Actually history seems to agree with me. Did you miss the part when the promised 2 was worked on for 6 years, got nowhere, delivered a disappointing alpha and got dump half-heartedly (as in with GPLv3, with the intention to continue commercial development) on GitHub? I dunno. I think the part where he could afford to spend 6 years working on some pie in the sky product which never released, subsisting entirely on income from TextMate 1 which was minimally enhanced during that time, suggests that history agrees with the "TextMate was very successful" view.