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At least for the cloud, one could consider the Lidl cloud called STACKIT, which targets larger businesses. Otherwise FULL ACK

wiether 2y ago
But do we have concrete examples of what they actually provide and how do they compare to the three majors public cloud providers? For example I can't tell if they have serverless offerings (particularly FaaS) Their public facing website is very similar to OVH or Scaleway Their Terraform provider is... not reassuring I guess from your username that you may have more intel about them, so I'm interested!
- Aldipower 2y ago
  So, I cannot tell you more either. As I am not related to Lidl, also not Aldi, despite my nickname. :-) But I think, also the EU customers and businesses reaching for such a cloud product are also responsible to make it work. So if you are working for a bigger company, why not find a solution together with the service providers based in the EU. Otherwise we get a hen and egg problem here.
  - wiether 2y ago
    Thank you for the reply! I don't work for a big company but work for/advise multiple companies of various sizes. For clients already on a public cloud, there's no way they'll want to make a new migration if 80% is not just adapting Terraform code to the new provider. For those thinking about going on a public cloud, they are still (for now) prioritizing costs and stability; they don't want to invest in a project where they'll have to bear part of the partner's R&D costs; in this case they'd rather invest in their own on-prem/private cloud setup. I think the only thing that could really change the hen&egg problem (completely agree with you on this) is EU putting tariffs on US tech services. If the three US public clouds cost 30% more one morning, companies will start thinking about working with other partners. But then it's going to be a FFA with everyone trying to migrate to EU clouds with a very limited supply and I don't see how it could end well...

wiether 2y ago

But do we have concrete examples of what they actually provide and how do they compare to the three majors public cloud providers? For example I can't tell if they have serverless offerings (particularly FaaS) Their public facing website is very similar to OVH or Scaleway Their Terraform provider is... not reassuring I guess from your username that you may have more intel about them, so I'm interested!

Aldipower 2y ago
So, I cannot tell you more either. As I am not related to Lidl, also not Aldi, despite my nickname. :-) But I think, also the EU customers and businesses reaching for such a cloud product are also responsible to make it work. So if you are working for a bigger company, why not find a solution together with the service providers based in the EU. Otherwise we get a hen and egg problem here.
- wiether 2y ago
  Thank you for the reply! I don't work for a big company but work for/advise multiple companies of various sizes. For clients already on a public cloud, there's no way they'll want to make a new migration if 80% is not just adapting Terraform code to the new provider. For those thinking about going on a public cloud, they are still (for now) prioritizing costs and stability; they don't want to invest in a project where they'll have to bear part of the partner's R&D costs; in this case they'd rather invest in their own on-prem/private cloud setup. I think the only thing that could really change the hen&egg problem (completely agree with you on this) is EU putting tariffs on US tech services. If the three US public clouds cost 30% more one morning, companies will start thinking about working with other partners. But then it's going to be a FFA with everyone trying to migrate to EU clouds with a very limited supply and I don't see how it could end well...