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The thing is, in Europe at least, it was never about Tesla, it was always about Elon Musk doing the so called "roman salute", doing stuff that borders on electi

The thing is, in Europe at least, it was never about Tesla, it was always about Elon Musk doing the so called "roman salute", doing stuff that borders on election interference in Germany with the AfD, and Vance just kinda made it worse, which somehow also backfired on Elon. The reason people in europe are not buying Teslas is because of Elon Musk, and regarding short memories, just about everybody i know, technically skilled or not, still knows that Steve Jobs was "the face of Apple", despite some of them not even being born when he died. People remember Elon Musk the same way with Tesla, and i don't see that going away soon.

tim333 2y ago
Maybe if Musk changed course and returned to solar power and saving the planet rather than alt right politics things would improve? Not sure if that's happening though.
- 8fingerlouie 2y ago
  The “hate” for Elon is strong in Europe. I seriously doubt there’s any coming back with him at the wheel. We already had one fascist leader in Europe, and we really don’t want another one, so Elon coming out as a full Nazi did immense damage to his personal and commercial brand. That’s also at least partly the reason for the strong dislike for the current US administration in Europe. Trump, Vance and more have openly supported the extreme right, made baseless accusations about censorship, and worse. It’s way beyond a political belief, in Europe it’s personal.
- ulfw 2y ago
  Who would be stupid enough to believe him ever again?
illiac786 2y ago
I agree for people who can afford a Tesla. There’s a whole world out there that couldn’t care less because it was always way beyond their budget anyway. I also think that people won’t exactly remember what he did but as usual, what will stay are emotions. And at the moment it’s simply embarrassing to be associated with Elon —Tesla owner bashing is irresistible for some, they make sure these owners will remember the embarrassment.

tim333 2y ago

Maybe if Musk changed course and returned to solar power and saving the planet rather than alt right politics things would improve? Not sure if that's happening though.

8fingerlouie 2y ago
The “hate” for Elon is strong in Europe. I seriously doubt there’s any coming back with him at the wheel. We already had one fascist leader in Europe, and we really don’t want another one, so Elon coming out as a full Nazi did immense damage to his personal and commercial brand. That’s also at least partly the reason for the strong dislike for the current US administration in Europe. Trump, Vance and more have openly supported the extreme right, made baseless accusations about censorship, and worse. It’s way beyond a political belief, in Europe it’s personal.
ulfw 2y ago
Who would be stupid enough to believe him ever again?

illiac786 2y ago

I agree for people who can afford a Tesla. There’s a whole world out there that couldn’t care less because it was always way beyond their budget anyway. I also think that people won’t exactly remember what he did but as usual, what will stay are emotions. And at the moment it’s simply embarrassing to be associated with Elon —Tesla owner bashing is irresistible for some, they make sure these owners will remember the embarrassment.