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Are you seriously comparing Australia to... North Korea?

by donnachangstein 2y ago

oneshtein 2y ago
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- DaSHacka 2y ago
  Source?
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itake 2y ago
And? governments shouldn't require their citizens to introduce backdoors into private companies.
- immibis 2y ago
  And they mostly don't, but North Korea does 100% of the time.
atoav 2y ago
It is a comparison between a North Korean practise to an apparently similar Australian practise. The ideology each state has nothing to do with the risk coming from employing people who can be compelled to follow such rules.
- pyrale 2y ago
  I understand your point, and that law is a problem. But there is a big difference between a law and a practice. In the case of NK, we have a long, documented trail showing that the country controls its foreign nationals. Despite that law, the same is not true of Australia.
- infecto 2y ago
  Surprising we have so many NK sympathizers here. We have decades of reporting for different groups and yet here we are defending NK and calling folks racists.
  - atoav 2y ago
    I do not sympathize with NK at all, they are monsters. What I am surprised about is that the same people who criticized other countries for doing X will not criticize their own/allied country doing a variation of X. I believe that we in the free West have a duty to keep our democrackes and we do that by not copying rules from the like of North Korea and by not constantly creating tools that help abolishing the division of powers. That means when I critique Australia for that law I do so on the moral ground that Australia should know better, while North Korea is more or less openly evil. I am a big fan of fixing our own problems instead of pointing elsewhere where it is even worse. But I learned that there is a big group of people who think that pointing out that there is dog shit on the carpet makes you somehow a traiter and not someone who wants to live in a country without dogshit on the carpet.
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  > The ideology each state has nothing to do with the risk coming from employing people who can be compelled to follow such rules What? You can't be serious. Of course the state ideology impacts the risk of the state acting ideologically.

Are you seriously comparing Australia to... North Korea?

oneshtein 2y ago

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DaSHacka 2y ago
Source?

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itake 2y ago

And? governments shouldn't require their citizens to introduce backdoors into private companies.

immibis 2y ago
And they mostly don't, but North Korea does 100% of the time.

atoav 2y ago

It is a comparison between a North Korean practise to an apparently similar Australian practise. The ideology each state has nothing to do with the risk coming from employing people who can be compelled to follow such rules.

pyrale 2y ago
I understand your point, and that law is a problem. But there is a big difference between a law and a practice. In the case of NK, we have a long, documented trail showing that the country controls its foreign nationals. Despite that law, the same is not true of Australia.
infecto 2y ago
Surprising we have so many NK sympathizers here. We have decades of reporting for different groups and yet here we are defending NK and calling folks racists.
- atoav 2y ago
  I do not sympathize with NK at all, they are monsters. What I am surprised about is that the same people who criticized other countries for doing X will not criticize their own/allied country doing a variation of X. I believe that we in the free West have a duty to keep our democrackes and we do that by not copying rules from the like of North Korea and by not constantly creating tools that help abolishing the division of powers. That means when I critique Australia for that law I do so on the moral ground that Australia should know better, while North Korea is more or less openly evil. I am a big fan of fixing our own problems instead of pointing elsewhere where it is even worse. But I learned that there is a big group of people who think that pointing out that there is dog shit on the carpet makes you somehow a traiter and not someone who wants to live in a country without dogshit on the carpet.
mvdtnz 2y ago
> The ideology each state has nothing to do with the risk coming from employing people who can be compelled to follow such rules What? You can't be serious. Of course the state ideology impacts the risk of the state acting ideologically.