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I recognize your username and I've followed your career since ~2017 or something. I never got an interview at Stripe, not that I would have ever passed it. I'm

I recognize your username and I've followed your career since ~2017 or something. I never got an interview at Stripe, not that I would have ever passed it. I'm not a L6/L7/L8. I worked at Amazon, and people think my class of people are subhuman.

fragmede 2y ago
Levels.fyi has L5 at Amazon making $150k base, $220k TC. You might not be Jeff Dean or Andrej Karpathy but there's only two of them. None of us are. That's not remotely subhuman failure. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries/systems-development-engineer/levels/l5 https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries/systems-dev...
- laidoffamazon 2y ago
  I make more than $220k now but OP 100% makes closer to $800K+ He definitely doesn't think people like me are human.
  - peterldowns 2y ago
    I sincerely hope that you seek and receive help.
    - laidoffamazon 2y ago
      What help? There is no help that will stop me from being an untermensch and failure? It's not going to get me a 1600 or get me into a top school or make me earn $800k a year.
      - findingMeaning 2y ago
        Don't worry. There are people with privilege who would never understand the mean. They fly high due to their circumstances and are just lucky. Us, we have go strive for living. That's the unfairness in life. It would have been so much easier if lucky ones would acknowledge their luck than attribute for hard work and what not. Everyone discounts luck while it is the biggest factor. Only action you can do is increase the surface area of your luck. Try to find meaning beyond career. There are multiple ways to get lucky. Find your own luck. After all we are in an era where people get wealth screaming on top of their lungs to the internet.
      - bruce511 2y ago
        Like Peter, I do recommend talking to someone about this. You don't sound content, and life is too short to miss out on the journey. I say this as someone who earns much less than you (never mind 800k), and who didn't go to a top school. I'm no psychiatrist but your posts suggests that you see yourself as a failure, or possibly you've gotten that feedback from others directly. Perhaps at Amazon or elsewhere. Projecting that feeling onto others suggests you would really benefit from talking to a professional about this. I don't think you're a failure, I don't know you. But from what little you've revealed I'd say you're not a failure. But perhaps you had your own goals you failed to achieve?
        laidoffamazon 2y ago
        I’ve had therapy, it doesn’t help. It doesn’t change the material facts that everyone thinks I’m a failure because that’s the objective truth.
        fedsocpuppet 2y ago
        Did they actually tell you that? I highly doubt it. You've created a preconception that I guarantee is not accurate at all. You have multiple people here saying it's bullshit, and we're not lying or trolling or anything like that. I replied somewhere else but I want to reiterate - why would you even want approval from people who dehumanize others on the basis of TC? It's like being upset Martin Shkreli doesn't want to be your friend. I really hope you'll believe me
        laidoffamazon 2y ago
        It’s not just TC though. TC is an imperfect proxy for ability and class. If I’m just permanently in the underclass - unable to be compared to you people - it’s obvious that y’all wouldn’t even see me as human. I have no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of. Freshmen at MIT have more potential and prior accomplishments than I do.
        fragmede 2y ago
      - bofadeez 2y ago
        Yeah that's okay. You're suffering from a common thing. You just need therapy and then you'll learn you're good enough without accomplishments. Right now you think you need to accomplish things to have value. That's a really basic textbook mental illness caused by parental neglect. Usually something like intermittent random love / neglect. Study attachment theory and you'll learn all about it.
  - cootsnuck 2y ago
    Huh?? I know people doing gig work struggling to live paycheck to paycheck. People making less than $50k a year who do not think they are "subhuman". Why are you equating money with self-worth and dignity? That's a losing battle since there's always a bigger fish.
  - rl1987 2y ago
    For most technical people in most of the world making $220k in a year is a distant dream.
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trogdor 2y ago
I see that your username is “laidoffamazon.” It seems that you are allowing the low points in your life to define who you are and what you think you can accomplish. Have you considered therapy?
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  Therapy, in this economy? I'm trying to cut pretty much all subsciptions just to pay rent.

fragmede 2y ago

Levels.fyi has L5 at Amazon making $150k base, $220k TC. You might not be Jeff Dean or Andrej Karpathy but there's only two of them. None of us are. That's not remotely subhuman failure. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries/systems-development-engineer/levels/l5 https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries/systems-dev...

laidoffamazon 2y ago
I make more than $220k now but OP 100% makes closer to $800K+ He definitely doesn't think people like me are human.
- peterldowns 2y ago
  I sincerely hope that you seek and receive help.
  - laidoffamazon 2y ago
    What help? There is no help that will stop me from being an untermensch and failure? It's not going to get me a 1600 or get me into a top school or make me earn $800k a year.
    - findingMeaning 2y ago
      Don't worry. There are people with privilege who would never understand the mean. They fly high due to their circumstances and are just lucky. Us, we have go strive for living. That's the unfairness in life. It would have been so much easier if lucky ones would acknowledge their luck than attribute for hard work and what not. Everyone discounts luck while it is the biggest factor. Only action you can do is increase the surface area of your luck. Try to find meaning beyond career. There are multiple ways to get lucky. Find your own luck. After all we are in an era where people get wealth screaming on top of their lungs to the internet.
    - bruce511 2y ago
      Like Peter, I do recommend talking to someone about this. You don't sound content, and life is too short to miss out on the journey. I say this as someone who earns much less than you (never mind 800k), and who didn't go to a top school. I'm no psychiatrist but your posts suggests that you see yourself as a failure, or possibly you've gotten that feedback from others directly. Perhaps at Amazon or elsewhere. Projecting that feeling onto others suggests you would really benefit from talking to a professional about this. I don't think you're a failure, I don't know you. But from what little you've revealed I'd say you're not a failure. But perhaps you had your own goals you failed to achieve?
      - laidoffamazon 2y ago
        I’ve had therapy, it doesn’t help. It doesn’t change the material facts that everyone thinks I’m a failure because that’s the objective truth.
        fedsocpuppet 2y ago
        Did they actually tell you that? I highly doubt it. You've created a preconception that I guarantee is not accurate at all. You have multiple people here saying it's bullshit, and we're not lying or trolling or anything like that. I replied somewhere else but I want to reiterate - why would you even want approval from people who dehumanize others on the basis of TC? It's like being upset Martin Shkreli doesn't want to be your friend. I really hope you'll believe me
        laidoffamazon 2y ago
        It’s not just TC though. TC is an imperfect proxy for ability and class. If I’m just permanently in the underclass - unable to be compared to you people - it’s obvious that y’all wouldn’t even see me as human. I have no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of. Freshmen at MIT have more potential and prior accomplishments than I do.
        fragmede 2y ago
    - bofadeez 2y ago
      Yeah that's okay. You're suffering from a common thing. You just need therapy and then you'll learn you're good enough without accomplishments. Right now you think you need to accomplish things to have value. That's a really basic textbook mental illness caused by parental neglect. Usually something like intermittent random love / neglect. Study attachment theory and you'll learn all about it.
- cootsnuck 2y ago
  Huh?? I know people doing gig work struggling to live paycheck to paycheck. People making less than $50k a year who do not think they are "subhuman". Why are you equating money with self-worth and dignity? That's a losing battle since there's always a bigger fish.
- rl1987 2y ago
  For most technical people in most of the world making $220k in a year is a distant dream.
- deleted 1y ago
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trogdor 2y ago

I see that your username is “laidoffamazon.” It seems that you are allowing the low points in your life to define who you are and what you think you can accomplish. Have you considered therapy?

johnnyanmac 2y ago
Therapy, in this economy? I'm trying to cut pretty much all subsciptions just to pay rent.