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Do you think they were talking about ICE because they mentioned the cost of tourism? I don't think they were referring to risk of detainment with that comment.

otikik 2y ago
It does count for me. The border crossing is the first experience that you get from a country. It has definitely gone worse. And it was not great to begin with. In the past, I had the ... pleasure ... of being put in the "back room" for 3 hours after a long transatlantic flight at SFO. I was not afraid then, just annoyed and tired. I would be afraid now and I would rather avoid it. There's many other places I can choose to visit.
- davidmurdoch 2y ago
  Interesting. If I have reservations of a government the cost of the trip isn't a consideration. I've forgone all-expenses-paid trips (for work-related conferences) to foreign countries because of the politics at the time.
- ty6853 2y ago
  I am still in debt from the last time they took me to the back room, did some kind of x-ray which detected my belt buckle. They declared the belt buckle was actually drugs up my ass, they strip searched me, and they then dragged me to two different hospitals chained and shackled and then sent me the bill when nothing was found. For this, the AUSA issued a retroactive search warrant, signed after they did it.
  - davidmurdoch 2y ago
    Sorry to hear about your traumatic encounter. Was this all after Trump's ICE enforcement changes? In any case, if you haven't already started this already, there are certainly US law firms that would love to take your case pro-bono, as in the US the government foots the bill for compelled medical exams unless the person was later found guilty. Also, the US Fourth Amendment requires warrants to be issues before searches except in exigent circumstances, so it was either exigent -- and a warrant wouldn't be legally required, or is an illegal warrant. This case sounds like it be a legal goldmine for you and your legal representative, especially now with all the public light being shed on invalid detainment.
    - ty6853 2y ago
      I have contacted multiple attorneys including the one of Ashley Cervantes who had a nearly identical case (almost all same facts except she was vaginally raped by finger of doctor) who lost. They all said they do not take these kind of cases as they are too difficult to win. Cervantes IIRC still owes that bill as well. If it were normal police I think you would be right but federal / CBP it is effectively impossible to overcome. One of the big things they do is play jurisdiction fuck-fuck games, if you start to win in federal court the judge will find a reason why it should have been in the state court and vice versa. The other thing they did in say when I lodged a complaint to the nursing board was they just played flip flop games that it was a police search when I complain of illegal health care, but when you complain the police search is illegal it gets shifted to just being health care, so they just flop a catch 22 to avoid being responsible for either. >Was this all after Trump's ICE enforcement changes? Was under Biden.
skyyler 2y ago
"What you get as a tourist" now includes the threat of indefinite detention in a for-profit prison. The "political climate" includes the indefinite detention of people that did nothing wrong.

otikik 2y ago

It does count for me. The border crossing is the first experience that you get from a country. It has definitely gone worse. And it was not great to begin with. In the past, I had the ... pleasure ... of being put in the "back room" for 3 hours after a long transatlantic flight at SFO. I was not afraid then, just annoyed and tired. I would be afraid now and I would rather avoid it. There's many other places I can choose to visit.

davidmurdoch 2y ago
Interesting. If I have reservations of a government the cost of the trip isn't a consideration. I've forgone all-expenses-paid trips (for work-related conferences) to foreign countries because of the politics at the time.
ty6853 2y ago
I am still in debt from the last time they took me to the back room, did some kind of x-ray which detected my belt buckle. They declared the belt buckle was actually drugs up my ass, they strip searched me, and they then dragged me to two different hospitals chained and shackled and then sent me the bill when nothing was found. For this, the AUSA issued a retroactive search warrant, signed after they did it.
- davidmurdoch 2y ago
  Sorry to hear about your traumatic encounter. Was this all after Trump's ICE enforcement changes? In any case, if you haven't already started this already, there are certainly US law firms that would love to take your case pro-bono, as in the US the government foots the bill for compelled medical exams unless the person was later found guilty. Also, the US Fourth Amendment requires warrants to be issues before searches except in exigent circumstances, so it was either exigent -- and a warrant wouldn't be legally required, or is an illegal warrant. This case sounds like it be a legal goldmine for you and your legal representative, especially now with all the public light being shed on invalid detainment.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    I have contacted multiple attorneys including the one of Ashley Cervantes who had a nearly identical case (almost all same facts except she was vaginally raped by finger of doctor) who lost. They all said they do not take these kind of cases as they are too difficult to win. Cervantes IIRC still owes that bill as well. If it were normal police I think you would be right but federal / CBP it is effectively impossible to overcome. One of the big things they do is play jurisdiction fuck-fuck games, if you start to win in federal court the judge will find a reason why it should have been in the state court and vice versa. The other thing they did in say when I lodged a complaint to the nursing board was they just played flip flop games that it was a police search when I complain of illegal health care, but when you complain the police search is illegal it gets shifted to just being health care, so they just flop a catch 22 to avoid being responsible for either. >Was this all after Trump's ICE enforcement changes? Was under Biden.

skyyler 2y ago

"What you get as a tourist" now includes the threat of indefinite detention in a for-profit prison. The "political climate" includes the indefinite detention of people that did nothing wrong.