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So far, the travel warnings I've seen all specify specific groups targeted by the American government, such as LGBTQ+ people. News of tourists getting imprison

So far, the travel warnings I've seen all specify specific groups targeted by the American government, such as LGBTQ+ people. News of tourists getting imprisoned for weeks or longer have been all over the news, but so far Europe doesn't seem to have actually brought out a general warning for that kind of danger. That said, the people I've spoken to (most of which aren't LGBT+) are hesitant to go to the US now. There's a stark difference between the "haha, what the fuck, US" sentiment I used to sense and the "what the fuck, US" we're getting now.

ta1243 2y ago
> So far, the travel warnings I've seen all specify specific groups targeted by the American government, such as LGBTQ+ people. The travel warnings for Germany in the 1930s were specific groups targeted by the Nazi government, such as Jewish people
- jeroenhd 2y ago
  The similarity is obvious, but there's a difference between "a travel warning has been issued for minorities" and "a travel warning has been issued". Unlike what the right-wing media may make it seem, the amount of trans/nonbinary people is absolutely minute. The warnings apply to at most a percentage of the population, and even then it only affects the people that have come out of the closet and jumped through the hoops necessary to get their passport altered. That obviously doesn't make the political trend _right_, but the geopolitical and economic implications are very different. These warnings don't include advice against entering the country as a tourist, despite the recent reports of tourists getting arrested and locked away at the border. Such a warning would set a much more grim tone for the future of the western bloc.
aadhavans 2y ago
> There's a stark difference between the "haha, what the fuck, US" sentiment I used to sense and the "what the fuck, US" we're getting now. Agreed, and this is a nice way of putting it. There's a sense that shit is really hitting the fan this time.

ta1243 2y ago

> So far, the travel warnings I've seen all specify specific groups targeted by the American government, such as LGBTQ+ people. The travel warnings for Germany in the 1930s were specific groups targeted by the Nazi government, such as Jewish people

jeroenhd 2y ago
The similarity is obvious, but there's a difference between "a travel warning has been issued for minorities" and "a travel warning has been issued". Unlike what the right-wing media may make it seem, the amount of trans/nonbinary people is absolutely minute. The warnings apply to at most a percentage of the population, and even then it only affects the people that have come out of the closet and jumped through the hoops necessary to get their passport altered. That obviously doesn't make the political trend _right_, but the geopolitical and economic implications are very different. These warnings don't include advice against entering the country as a tourist, despite the recent reports of tourists getting arrested and locked away at the border. Such a warning would set a much more grim tone for the future of the western bloc.

aadhavans 2y ago

> There's a stark difference between the "haha, what the fuck, US" sentiment I used to sense and the "what the fuck, US" we're getting now. Agreed, and this is a nice way of putting it. There's a sense that shit is really hitting the fan this time.