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If you ban politics, someone will just say you're playing politics. I personally think the idea of creating a place that suits everyone is unrealistic. It will

by outime 2y ago

If you ban politics, someone will just say you're playing politics. I personally think the idea of creating a place that suits everyone is unrealistic. It will never happen, and there will always be something that offends one side or the other. It seems like open social networks will always be toxic (whatever that really means).

Loughla 2y ago
There's a difference between being toxic and not allowing politics. Political discussions aren't inherently toxic, they're just easier to slip into toxicity. Look at HN. There's political conversation here occasionally, but it's not generally toxic. All it takes is clear, consistent, and constant moderation.
- mapt 2y ago
  They will be inherently toxic when the politics are inherently toxic. You can be banned from /r/Conservative permanently for showing the slightest deviation from the current propaganda line, but there are such a ready supply of new people that the algorithm attracts who naturally are opposed to the political platform that many bans are handed out per discussion.
  - bakugo 2y ago
    > You can be banned from /r/Conservative permanently for showing the slightest deviation from the current propaganda line This is true for almost every single subreddit. Contemplate why you felt the need to single out r/conservative in particular.
- outime 2y ago
  I used to think like that, but now I believe the vast majority of those discussions are inherently toxic, so I just don’t bring them up anymore in almost any context, whether it's work, friends, family, or social networks (if I still used them, that is). It just brings so much unhappiness, and there's nothing to "gain", especially nowadays when you're constantly bombarded by social media, the media, or whatever else is pushing you in whatever direction is convenient at the time. Let’s be honest, most political posts here get flagged and disappear almost immediately, especially if they lean a certain way. I’m not specifying which direction I think they lean because people will interpret it differently, and it would be pointless. It's yet another example of why, in most cases, it’s toxic.

by outime 2y ago

Loughla 2y ago

There's a difference between being toxic and not allowing politics. Political discussions aren't inherently toxic, they're just easier to slip into toxicity. Look at HN. There's political conversation here occasionally, but it's not generally toxic. All it takes is clear, consistent, and constant moderation.

mapt 2y ago
They will be inherently toxic when the politics are inherently toxic. You can be banned from /r/Conservative permanently for showing the slightest deviation from the current propaganda line, but there are such a ready supply of new people that the algorithm attracts who naturally are opposed to the political platform that many bans are handed out per discussion.
- bakugo 2y ago
  > You can be banned from /r/Conservative permanently for showing the slightest deviation from the current propaganda line This is true for almost every single subreddit. Contemplate why you felt the need to single out r/conservative in particular.
outime 2y ago
I used to think like that, but now I believe the vast majority of those discussions are inherently toxic, so I just don’t bring them up anymore in almost any context, whether it's work, friends, family, or social networks (if I still used them, that is). It just brings so much unhappiness, and there's nothing to "gain", especially nowadays when you're constantly bombarded by social media, the media, or whatever else is pushing you in whatever direction is convenient at the time. Let’s be honest, most political posts here get flagged and disappear almost immediately, especially if they lean a certain way. I’m not specifying which direction I think they lean because people will interpret it differently, and it would be pointless. It's yet another example of why, in most cases, it’s toxic.