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Free Software is a viral license. Open Source is not. So there is a difference, and I'd argue that Free <> Open Source, although they're similar. Other than th

Free Software is a viral license. Open Source is not. So there is a difference, and I'd argue that Free <> Open Source, although they're similar. Other than that I 100% agree either you.

CaptainFever 2y ago
Sorry, this is not true. Free software simply means that the software grants the user 4 fundamental freedoms: the freedom to run, study, redistribute, and modify. It does not require virality, though it is encouraged. From what I understand, Free Software and Open Source are largely similar, except that the former is political and moral, while the latter is mostly concerned about practical effects.
School-Cotton 2y ago
No, open source and free software are synonyms according to proponents of both terms, including Richard Stallman, the most prominent “free software” crusader. All (or at least virtually all) Free Software Foundation-approved licenses are also OSI-approved, and vice versa. Your misconception is very common, but you, and other people with the same misconception, are conflating a few different things. Most of the people who prefer the term “free software” also prefer copyleft licenses to permissive licenses. Which is where the misunderstanding that “free software” means copyleft licenses and “open source” means permissive licenses comes from.
- bruce511 2y ago
  Yes, I'm viewing the concept of Free Software and Open Source through the political not legal lens. Sorry for that - I should have been more careful in a thread focusing on the legal parts.
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    It’s not a question of what lens you’re viewing it through — your initial comment is simply wrong. Viral licenses e.g. GPL are _both_ free software and open source. Permissive licenses e.g. BSD are also _both_ free software and open source.
    - bruce511 2y ago
      Legally yes. But in the political sense Free Software favors virality, whereas Open Source does not. And again I apologize for viewing it through that lens when discussing the legal aspects, not the political aspects.
      - School-Cotton 2y ago
        But you said: “Free software IS a viral license” Not “free software as a political movement tends to prefer viral licenses”. Why is it so hard to just admit you were wrong?

Free Software is a viral license. Open Source is not. So there is a difference, and I'd argue that Free <> Open Source, although they're similar. Other than that I 100% agree either you.

CaptainFever 2y ago

Sorry, this is not true. Free software simply means that the software grants the user 4 fundamental freedoms: the freedom to run, study, redistribute, and modify. It does not require virality, though it is encouraged. From what I understand, Free Software and Open Source are largely similar, except that the former is political and moral, while the latter is mostly concerned about practical effects.

School-Cotton 2y ago

No, open source and free software are synonyms according to proponents of both terms, including Richard Stallman, the most prominent “free software” crusader. All (or at least virtually all) Free Software Foundation-approved licenses are also OSI-approved, and vice versa. Your misconception is very common, but you, and other people with the same misconception, are conflating a few different things. Most of the people who prefer the term “free software” also prefer copyleft licenses to permissive licenses. Which is where the misunderstanding that “free software” means copyleft licenses and “open source” means permissive licenses comes from.

bruce511 2y ago
Yes, I'm viewing the concept of Free Software and Open Source through the political not legal lens. Sorry for that - I should have been more careful in a thread focusing on the legal parts.
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  It’s not a question of what lens you’re viewing it through — your initial comment is simply wrong. Viral licenses e.g. GPL are _both_ free software and open source. Permissive licenses e.g. BSD are also _both_ free software and open source.
  - bruce511 2y ago
    Legally yes. But in the political sense Free Software favors virality, whereas Open Source does not. And again I apologize for viewing it through that lens when discussing the legal aspects, not the political aspects.
    - School-Cotton 2y ago
      But you said: “Free software IS a viral license” Not “free software as a political movement tends to prefer viral licenses”. Why is it so hard to just admit you were wrong?