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I consider my to do list highly private information and will not consider using any syncing application that doesn't encrypt my data at rest. Perhaps that make

by quesera 14y ago

I consider my to do list highly private information and will not consider using any syncing application that doesn't encrypt my data at rest. Perhaps that makes me a unique snowflake, and perhaps a true Scotsman. The convenience of ubiquitous sync is undeniable, but there's more personal data in my todo list than in my email spool. I use it for notes, ideas, trivial record keeping, etc. It's private, and there are a dozen little companies who offer to sync my stuff. I don't trust any of them. I don't trust Google or Apple with that data either, but I wish someone would do it right so I could. Is this not a concern for others?

k-mcgrady 14y ago
Not for me. I think the issue for you is that you use a to-do app for "notes, ideas, trivial record keeping, etc.". I use other apps for those things. I do have personal things in my to-do list but nothing I would be worried about anyone else seeing.
moe 14y ago
a unique snowflake Not at all. I refrain from these apps (and most note-taking apps) for the same reason. I dump everything from passwords to CC-numbers into my notes and todos. If I had to start thinking about what to put there and what not it would kill half the utility. It's beyond me why the vendors don't add this comparably trivial, yet critical feature (client-side encryption). It's a matter of time until Evernote and friends get hacked, if they haven't been already. That day you will see many sad faces, when people begin to realize that over time they've probably put more than "get milk"-notes and the latest cat pictures in there.
- k-mcgrady 14y ago
  Serious question: Why would you store passwords and cc-numbers in a todo app? Why not store your passwords in a purpose built app like 1password and use the todo software for todo's (get milk, finish project etc.)?
  - Someone 14y ago
    He was talking about 'in my notes and todos'. I guess his passwords end up in his notes, not in his todos. Then, I think it all boils down to personal preference. In the limit, you have diehard emacs users, who store everything (notes, todos, spreadsheets, word processing aka TeX documents, playlists (http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/ http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/), encryption utilities, etc) in 'emacs files' :-)
dangero 14y ago
Have you tried Toodledo? That's a pretty awesome one and they use SSL for all iOS traffic to their server. I've been using it for 2 years now and I have pretty much no complaints. edit: Spelling mistake
- frou_dh 14y ago
  SSL is in flight encryption, not at rest encryption. Maybe Toodledo do that, too.
- gurkendoktor 14y ago
  Same for Things, according to their Things Cloud page: http://culturedcode.com/things/cloud/ http://culturedcode.com/things/cloud/ I would be surprised/shocked if any To Do app did not yet use HTTPS.
smalter 14y ago
Do you use Gmail?
Lewisham 14y ago
FWIW, Things Cloud is turned off by default, and is not required for the operation of the software.
gurkendoktor 14y ago
It is - and I am thankful that OmniFocus lets me sync via Bonjour or custom DAV. I just set up the latter and it syncs way faster than the OmniSyncServer ever did while I used it. (I am in Germany and so is my DAV server.)

by quesera 14y ago

k-mcgrady 14y ago

Not for me. I think the issue for you is that you use a to-do app for "notes, ideas, trivial record keeping, etc.". I use other apps for those things. I do have personal things in my to-do list but nothing I would be worried about anyone else seeing.

moe 14y ago

a unique snowflake Not at all. I refrain from these apps (and most note-taking apps) for the same reason. I dump everything from passwords to CC-numbers into my notes and todos. If I had to start thinking about what to put there and what not it would kill half the utility. It's beyond me why the vendors don't add this comparably trivial, yet critical feature (client-side encryption). It's a matter of time until Evernote and friends get hacked, if they haven't been already. That day you will see many sad faces, when people begin to realize that over time they've probably put more than "get milk"-notes and the latest cat pictures in there.

k-mcgrady 14y ago
Serious question: Why would you store passwords and cc-numbers in a todo app? Why not store your passwords in a purpose built app like 1password and use the todo software for todo's (get milk, finish project etc.)?
- Someone 14y ago
  He was talking about 'in my notes and todos'. I guess his passwords end up in his notes, not in his todos. Then, I think it all boils down to personal preference. In the limit, you have diehard emacs users, who store everything (notes, todos, spreadsheets, word processing aka TeX documents, playlists (http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/ http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/), encryption utilities, etc) in 'emacs files' :-)

dangero 14y ago

Have you tried Toodledo? That's a pretty awesome one and they use SSL for all iOS traffic to their server. I've been using it for 2 years now and I have pretty much no complaints. edit: Spelling mistake

frou_dh 14y ago
SSL is in flight encryption, not at rest encryption. Maybe Toodledo do that, too.
gurkendoktor 14y ago
Same for Things, according to their Things Cloud page: http://culturedcode.com/things/cloud/ http://culturedcode.com/things/cloud/ I would be surprised/shocked if any To Do app did not yet use HTTPS.

smalter 14y ago

Do you use Gmail?

Lewisham 14y ago

FWIW, Things Cloud is turned off by default, and is not required for the operation of the software.

gurkendoktor 14y ago

It is - and I am thankful that OmniFocus lets me sync via Bonjour or custom DAV. I just set up the latter and it syncs way faster than the OmniSyncServer ever did while I used it. (I am in Germany and so is my DAV server.)