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The hand has made contact with the stove.

neogodless 2y ago
I think this implies learning. Maybe not? But just so I'm being clear, I do not believe certain parties will learn from this.
- Trasmatta 2y ago
  The stove analogy is more about the US voting base learning a lesson
  - sathackr 2y ago
    There will be no lesson learned. It will be blamed on the other side and the story will be bought hook line and sinker
    - Trasmatta 2y ago
      For the main base of course, but there's a large block of swing voters and "undecideds" that went to Trump for whatever reason this election. It's more about them. And also the ones that just don't vote because they think it doesn't matter. MAGA represents a smaller proportion of eligible voters that cannot win elections without the broader support they somehow garnered.
      - fuzzfactor 2y ago
        Almost half the base made the fiscally prudent vote. I don't know what the bigger half is capable of learning, some of them probably learned a lot already if they are a shareholder of any kind, and it would not make very much sense for it to remain the bigger half by now. It really was the non-voters that consistently failed to send Trump and his people packing though. Sickening as it can be sometimes, hindsight is 20/20 and just a short number of weeks ago it would have made more sense for the shareholders of the USA to just cough the money up front and pay him $1Trillion to go away and never come back, taking his kind with him. Even worse, a year ago his price would have surely been lower, probably one of the biggest lost opportunities some of these shareholders will ever see.
    - astrange 2y ago
      That happened in 2020 because everyone was so traumatized they forgot who was president then, but I don't think it will always happen.
    - smegger001 2y ago
      yeah it a case of Democrats: "Please don't put your hand on the stove it will burn you" MAGA: "well I have to put my hand on the stove to pwn the libs" fallowed shortly by "ouch the libs made me burn my hand"
  - neogodless 2y ago
    Just hop on over to Fox News web site. There's nothing about stock markets in the news. If you dig into Economy / Markets you'll find an article talking about how the national debt is poised to destroy the U.S. Still nothing about tariffs having any downsides, or any negative things happening in the U.S. or global economy. Eventually some Trump voters will notice on their own stock market fluctuations, which of those, what percentage will learn that it is actually Trump's decisions that caused it?
trgn 2y ago
only the 401k people (i think bessent called them that). young malcontents voting antiwoke, rich people with more than enough, seniors counting down to social security, feds who are vested in gov pension plans, genuine have nots. none of this matters to them in any material way.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  Indeed. Those groups get a bit of delayed contact with the stove, as prices rise over the next weeks and months.
- e40 2y ago
  > seniors counting down to social security What?? They gutting SS’s ability to service accounts. Their offices are impossible to contact and the website keeps crashing (story is on the front page now).

I think this implies learning. Maybe not? But just so I'm being clear, I do not believe certain parties will learn from this.

Trasmatta 2y ago
The stove analogy is more about the US voting base learning a lesson
- sathackr 2y ago
  There will be no lesson learned. It will be blamed on the other side and the story will be bought hook line and sinker
  - Trasmatta 2y ago
    For the main base of course, but there's a large block of swing voters and "undecideds" that went to Trump for whatever reason this election. It's more about them. And also the ones that just don't vote because they think it doesn't matter. MAGA represents a smaller proportion of eligible voters that cannot win elections without the broader support they somehow garnered.
    - fuzzfactor 2y ago
      Almost half the base made the fiscally prudent vote. I don't know what the bigger half is capable of learning, some of them probably learned a lot already if they are a shareholder of any kind, and it would not make very much sense for it to remain the bigger half by now. It really was the non-voters that consistently failed to send Trump and his people packing though. Sickening as it can be sometimes, hindsight is 20/20 and just a short number of weeks ago it would have made more sense for the shareholders of the USA to just cough the money up front and pay him $1Trillion to go away and never come back, taking his kind with him. Even worse, a year ago his price would have surely been lower, probably one of the biggest lost opportunities some of these shareholders will ever see.
  - astrange 2y ago
    That happened in 2020 because everyone was so traumatized they forgot who was president then, but I don't think it will always happen.
  - smegger001 2y ago
    yeah it a case of Democrats: "Please don't put your hand on the stove it will burn you" MAGA: "well I have to put my hand on the stove to pwn the libs" fallowed shortly by "ouch the libs made me burn my hand"
- neogodless 2y ago
  Just hop on over to Fox News web site. There's nothing about stock markets in the news. If you dig into Economy / Markets you'll find an article talking about how the national debt is poised to destroy the U.S. Still nothing about tariffs having any downsides, or any negative things happening in the U.S. or global economy. Eventually some Trump voters will notice on their own stock market fluctuations, which of those, what percentage will learn that it is actually Trump's decisions that caused it?

trgn 2y ago

only the 401k people (i think bessent called them that). young malcontents voting antiwoke, rich people with more than enough, seniors counting down to social security, feds who are vested in gov pension plans, genuine have nots. none of this matters to them in any material way.

rsynnott 2y ago
Indeed. Those groups get a bit of delayed contact with the stove, as prices rise over the next weeks and months.
e40 2y ago
> seniors counting down to social security What?? They gutting SS’s ability to service accounts. Their offices are impossible to contact and the website keeps crashing (story is on the front page now).