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Yeah, let’s make road users spend a couple days a year pouring asphalt as well. It’s only fair

Freedom2 2y ago
We should also make sure that anyone who hasn't paid the trail toll or contributed physically are not allowed to use it, it's also only fair.
SoftTalker 2y ago
The difference of course is that almost everyone uses or benefits from the economy of roads. Relatively very few people use trails and they use them for personal enjoyment.
- throwaway173738 2y ago
  The real difference is that people in cities pay huge amounts of tax to support the roads out to a relatively few houses in the country. Roads are the biggest outlay in every county I’ve lived in.
  - LadyCailin 2y ago
    Then the rural people vote to get rid of state run infrastructure, and then get mad at the city slickers because they still have nice roads.
- peter422 2y ago
  The number of people who use state and federal parks in a given year is roughly equal to the number of people who fly. It’s definitely a few notches above “very few”.
  - Freedom2 2y ago
    I wonder if the parent to this comment is another "I don't use trails, so no one does!". If you actually walk along a few trails on a regular cadence, it's clear that there are many different people - it's not just the same people every weekend.
- kjkjadksj 2y ago
  Relatively people use your residential street. Why not let it turn to mud then? Wider economy won't miss it.
- chimpanzee 2y ago
  You really can’t think of any ancillary benefits to the presence of accessible nature? I feel like this sort of comment (from someone with 14k+ “karma” points) is a kind of DoS attack on their self-perceived opponents. But nonetheless, here’s three benefits for all, regardless of usage: - reduction in healthcare costs, both physical and mental - increased tourism - increased appreciation for environment which in turn loops back into this list from the top Just focusing on health alone has wide ranging benefits. And if all you care about are tax revenues and GDP, a healthy, happy workforce goes quite a way to improving both. I’m not going to list anymore because I got other things to do and think about. And this isn’t going to change your mind anyways.
- mrj 2y ago
  Nothing wrong with a society wanting to have a nice thing and choosing to paying for it. Trails and parks are politically quite popular.
- const_cast 1y ago
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We should also make sure that anyone who hasn't paid the trail toll or contributed physically are not allowed to use it, it's also only fair.

SoftTalker 2y ago

The difference of course is that almost everyone uses or benefits from the economy of roads. Relatively very few people use trails and they use them for personal enjoyment.

throwaway173738 2y ago
The real difference is that people in cities pay huge amounts of tax to support the roads out to a relatively few houses in the country. Roads are the biggest outlay in every county I’ve lived in.
- LadyCailin 2y ago
  Then the rural people vote to get rid of state run infrastructure, and then get mad at the city slickers because they still have nice roads.
peter422 2y ago
The number of people who use state and federal parks in a given year is roughly equal to the number of people who fly. It’s definitely a few notches above “very few”.
- Freedom2 2y ago
  I wonder if the parent to this comment is another "I don't use trails, so no one does!". If you actually walk along a few trails on a regular cadence, it's clear that there are many different people - it's not just the same people every weekend.
kjkjadksj 2y ago
Relatively people use your residential street. Why not let it turn to mud then? Wider economy won't miss it.
chimpanzee 2y ago
You really can’t think of any ancillary benefits to the presence of accessible nature? I feel like this sort of comment (from someone with 14k+ “karma” points) is a kind of DoS attack on their self-perceived opponents. But nonetheless, here’s three benefits for all, regardless of usage: - reduction in healthcare costs, both physical and mental - increased tourism - increased appreciation for environment which in turn loops back into this list from the top Just focusing on health alone has wide ranging benefits. And if all you care about are tax revenues and GDP, a healthy, happy workforce goes quite a way to improving both. I’m not going to list anymore because I got other things to do and think about. And this isn’t going to change your mind anyways.
mrj 2y ago
Nothing wrong with a society wanting to have a nice thing and choosing to paying for it. Trails and parks are politically quite popular.
const_cast 1y ago
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