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This is absolutely incredible: surprising amount of consistency and the whole thing live-generated. It’s incredible how quickly we can get inured to technology

This is absolutely incredible: surprising amount of consistency and the whole thing live-generated. It’s incredible how quickly we can get inured to technology that would have been sheer magic when I was younger. I recall being blindingly excited about Windows 98 and a gradient title bar but these days everything new I see is incredible and everyone is bored with it. I don’t get it. The game is being generated frame to frame!

timewizard 2y ago
> The game is being generated frame to frame! The world is. I would struggle to call this a "game" in the sense that it would be highly rewarding to play. It's also impossible to compete with your friends for high scores or best times. It completely ignores everything about what human "games" are and instead focuses on what the "billion dollar copyright theft machine" can crank out this week. > and everyone is bored with it. It's almost like the people pushing this technology are not human. Or don't live human experiences. I can't rightfully apprehend how they thought this would be received well. Perfection is lots of little things done well. The current AI slop is lots of things done poorly. And if you squint your eyes and tilt your head you can _almost pretend_ it's something novel. Of course it earns yawns.
seedboot 2y ago
> these days everything new I see is incredible and everyone is bored with it Information saturation
fullshark 2y ago
This is beyond that, a lot of people are uncomfortable with computer algorithms mimicking human ingenuity and creativity, even at hackernews where we're all trying to figure out how to get rich from it.
- sva_ 2y ago
  Perhaps if the transistor was invented today, some people would be disgusted at how it mimicks the ingenuity of humans calculating
  - EvanAnderson 2y ago
    I would be dubious of the utility if it calculated imperfectly and in a way that couldn't be understood and characterized by people. If the advice to the public given by experts in the field was that this lack of determinism and understandability was acceptable I would be disgusted.
  - joegibbs 2y ago
    Or the camera - think about how it puts all those portrait painters out of a job, and it makes anyone who can click a button think they’re some kind of genius artist, and it’s ruining the environment with all the toxic waste produced from developing the film
WorldPeas 2y ago
I know some may will decry it for what it stands for, but I think this is great for edge case mitigation, imagine civilization games where you can use flexible strategies mimicking real life, versus following programmed decision trees. Gameplay that is responsive to environmental destruction, agent cores in the console that are constantly scheming against you. If done right, we can continue to do new and innovative things. One can get bogged down by the bad 3d animation out there, or marvel at what Pixar and before it, films like "Flight of the Navigator" and "Terminator" did.
latexr 2y ago
> surprising amount of consistency Hard disagree. I found it to have a surprising amount of inconsistency. All I needed was to look completely up (or completely down) then restore the view and I was in a completely different setting.

timewizard 2y ago

> The game is being generated frame to frame! The world is. I would struggle to call this a "game" in the sense that it would be highly rewarding to play. It's also impossible to compete with your friends for high scores or best times. It completely ignores everything about what human "games" are and instead focuses on what the "billion dollar copyright theft machine" can crank out this week. > and everyone is bored with it. It's almost like the people pushing this technology are not human. Or don't live human experiences. I can't rightfully apprehend how they thought this would be received well. Perfection is lots of little things done well. The current AI slop is lots of things done poorly. And if you squint your eyes and tilt your head you can _almost pretend_ it's something novel. Of course it earns yawns.

seedboot 2y ago

> these days everything new I see is incredible and everyone is bored with it Information saturation

fullshark 2y ago

This is beyond that, a lot of people are uncomfortable with computer algorithms mimicking human ingenuity and creativity, even at hackernews where we're all trying to figure out how to get rich from it.

sva_ 2y ago
Perhaps if the transistor was invented today, some people would be disgusted at how it mimicks the ingenuity of humans calculating
- EvanAnderson 2y ago
  I would be dubious of the utility if it calculated imperfectly and in a way that couldn't be understood and characterized by people. If the advice to the public given by experts in the field was that this lack of determinism and understandability was acceptable I would be disgusted.
- joegibbs 2y ago
  Or the camera - think about how it puts all those portrait painters out of a job, and it makes anyone who can click a button think they’re some kind of genius artist, and it’s ruining the environment with all the toxic waste produced from developing the film

WorldPeas 2y ago

I know some may will decry it for what it stands for, but I think this is great for edge case mitigation, imagine civilization games where you can use flexible strategies mimicking real life, versus following programmed decision trees. Gameplay that is responsive to environmental destruction, agent cores in the console that are constantly scheming against you. If done right, we can continue to do new and innovative things. One can get bogged down by the bad 3d animation out there, or marvel at what Pixar and before it, films like "Flight of the Navigator" and "Terminator" did.

latexr 2y ago

> surprising amount of consistency Hard disagree. I found it to have a surprising amount of inconsistency. All I needed was to look completely up (or completely down) then restore the view and I was in a completely different setting.