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Maybe I missed it, but your not seeing a lot of Bernie/AOC push-back on these tariffs. While I am sure that hate the way Trump goes about implementing these tar

Maybe I missed it, but your not seeing a lot of Bernie/AOC push-back on these tariffs. While I am sure that hate the way Trump goes about implementing these tariffs they don't seem opposed, to even large, tariffs on principle.

ceejayoz 2y ago
You absolutely missed it. AOC: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5108287-donald-trump-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-columbia/ https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5108287-donald-trump-alex... > “To ‘punish’ Colombia, Trump is about to make every American pay even more for coffee,” the New York Democrat said on the social platform X. “Remember: WE pay the tariffs, not Colombia,” she added. “Trump is all about making inflation WORSE for working class Americans, not better. He’s lining the pockets of himself and the billionaire class.” Bernie: https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1908221908954263821 https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1908221908954263821 > Our trade policies should benefit American workers, not just corporate CEOs. That includes targeted tariffs to stop corporations from outsourcing American jobs & factories. We do not need a blanket, arbitrary sales tax that will raise prices on products that Americans need.
- megaman821 2y ago
  Thanks for the links. I don't think there is as much daylight between Bernie's targeted tariffs and Trump's blanket then negotiate exceptions tariffs though. I guess we will see. Or Congress could decide it wants to do its job again and stops delegating its authority to the Executive.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > I don't think there is as much daylight between Bernie's targeted tariffs and Trump's blanket then negotiate exceptions tariffs though. The fact that you thought Bernie and AOC were quietly supportive of his tarrifs perhaps indicates the value of this opinion. Tarrif rates have been steadily dropping to near-zero, since the 1930s, under both political parties. We're now returning to a rate not reached in over a century. https://www.statista.com/chart/34236/average-effective-tariff-rate-on-us-imports/ https://www.statista.com/chart/34236/average-effective-tarif...
    - megaman821 2y ago
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      - ceejayoz 2y ago
        > Bernie is for tariffs in his own words. If you read only half of them, sure. I’m for jailing some people, but if you say you’re gonna jail everyone we disagree, yes? > AOCs comment was from months ago. Thats during Trump’s current and second term, during which he promised these tariffs as a campaign issue. Pretending her comments aren’t related is getting a bit desperate now.

ceejayoz 2y ago

You absolutely missed it. AOC: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5108287-donald-trump-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-columbia/ https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5108287-donald-trump-alex... > “To ‘punish’ Colombia, Trump is about to make every American pay even more for coffee,” the New York Democrat said on the social platform X. “Remember: WE pay the tariffs, not Colombia,” she added. “Trump is all about making inflation WORSE for working class Americans, not better. He’s lining the pockets of himself and the billionaire class.” Bernie: https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1908221908954263821 https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1908221908954263821 > Our trade policies should benefit American workers, not just corporate CEOs. That includes targeted tariffs to stop corporations from outsourcing American jobs & factories. We do not need a blanket, arbitrary sales tax that will raise prices on products that Americans need.

megaman821 2y ago
Thanks for the links. I don't think there is as much daylight between Bernie's targeted tariffs and Trump's blanket then negotiate exceptions tariffs though. I guess we will see. Or Congress could decide it wants to do its job again and stops delegating its authority to the Executive.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > I don't think there is as much daylight between Bernie's targeted tariffs and Trump's blanket then negotiate exceptions tariffs though. The fact that you thought Bernie and AOC were quietly supportive of his tarrifs perhaps indicates the value of this opinion. Tarrif rates have been steadily dropping to near-zero, since the 1930s, under both political parties. We're now returning to a rate not reached in over a century. https://www.statista.com/chart/34236/average-effective-tariff-rate-on-us-imports/ https://www.statista.com/chart/34236/average-effective-tarif...
  - megaman821 2y ago
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    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      > Bernie is for tariffs in his own words. If you read only half of them, sure. I’m for jailing some people, but if you say you’re gonna jail everyone we disagree, yes? > AOCs comment was from months ago. Thats during Trump’s current and second term, during which he promised these tariffs as a campaign issue. Pretending her comments aren’t related is getting a bit desperate now.