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I'm confused. Are you making an argument that relative lack of power justifies immoral actions? I.e. "My family is starving, I have less money than others, so

I'm confused. Are you making an argument that relative lack of power justifies immoral actions? I.e. "My family is starving, I have less money than others, so it's ok for me to steal bread" (hat tip to Jean Valjean). Just curious about your perspective.

jpc0 2y ago
Unrelated to the above discussion but, not justfies it, it's still wrong. But a poor hungry person is a lot more likely to commit a crime of opportunity that feeds them and their family than a well of, well fed person. Maybe you are actually agreeing with me. My view, as a neutral observer to the Hamas / IDF debate is they are both wrong and you would ( inclusive you not you specifically ) would probably do the same... Cough Afghanistan etc...
- nailer 2y ago
  Gaza has an incredibly high obesity rate, over 4K calories a day per capita, and it’s Hamas that stockpiles food not Israel.
wredcoll 2y ago
I'm actually making the argument that people should be held more accountable for solving problems the more power they have. It's easy to say "both sides" committed immoral actions, but that doesn't really get us anywhere useful, other than perhaps some moral superiority. If we want to actually solve problems, i.e. prevent those bad things from happening in the future, the practical suggestion is to start with those people who have the most power to effect change.
- claytongulick 2y ago
  So, "with great power comes great responsibility". That's a concept I've believed in since Stan Lee illustrated it so beautifully to me as a child. I'm not qualified to engage in serious ethics debates, and I'm definitely not qualified to hold an opinion on anything going on in the middle east. Watching the news and scrolling social media in no way prepares me to understand the deep and complex issues of the region. I was just curious about your perspective. Thanks for explaining.

jpc0 2y ago

Unrelated to the above discussion but, not justfies it, it's still wrong. But a poor hungry person is a lot more likely to commit a crime of opportunity that feeds them and their family than a well of, well fed person. Maybe you are actually agreeing with me. My view, as a neutral observer to the Hamas / IDF debate is they are both wrong and you would ( inclusive you not you specifically ) would probably do the same... Cough Afghanistan etc...

nailer 2y ago
Gaza has an incredibly high obesity rate, over 4K calories a day per capita, and it’s Hamas that stockpiles food not Israel.

wredcoll 2y ago

I'm actually making the argument that people should be held more accountable for solving problems the more power they have. It's easy to say "both sides" committed immoral actions, but that doesn't really get us anywhere useful, other than perhaps some moral superiority. If we want to actually solve problems, i.e. prevent those bad things from happening in the future, the practical suggestion is to start with those people who have the most power to effect change.

claytongulick 2y ago
So, "with great power comes great responsibility". That's a concept I've believed in since Stan Lee illustrated it so beautifully to me as a child. I'm not qualified to engage in serious ethics debates, and I'm definitely not qualified to hold an opinion on anything going on in the middle east. Watching the news and scrolling social media in no way prepares me to understand the deep and complex issues of the region. I was just curious about your perspective. Thanks for explaining.