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Related: Well-sourced video on the topic https://youtube.com/watch?v=yRdzIs4FJJg https://youtube.com/watch?v=yRdzIs4FJJg

redox99 2y ago
Considering how much FSD has improved in the last few months, a 2 year old video is not relevant.
- only-one1701 2y ago
  Not relevant to what? Those people are still dead.
  - redox99 2y ago
    The shortcomings of 2 year old software is not relevant, because that's not what the cars run now.
    - jcranmer 2y ago
      What evidence do you have that Tesla has meaningfully improved the software to fix the referenced issues since then?
      - redox99 2y ago
        Evidence is a strong word. But based on personal driving, other drivers comments, and seeing tests by channels like Dirty Tesla and Chuck Cook, you can tell the difference between current FSD v13, and what we had 2 years ago (v10 or v11) is absolutely gigantic.
    - tyree731 2y ago
      By this argument, since Tesla regularly updates the software, no one can discuss the weaknesses in their self driving software.
      - redox99 2y ago
        I never said that. Just discuss the current version or at least something recent (any v13 version).
        ModernMech 2y ago
        Yeah but you see this goalpost moving all the time when talking Tesla. Every time someone says something is wrong, people will say "But what about the latest version" or "this will be fixed in the next version". Meanwhile, you can still find video on YouTube of cars on the latest version veering into oncoming traffic.
  - janice1999 2y ago
    Other peoples lives are a sacrifice some drivers alpha testing their cars firmware are willing to make.
- outside1234 2y ago
  Just amazing to me how blind people are to how much of a fraud Musk is
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    cause it is a cult following, not blindness…
- deleted 2y ago
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- dharmab 2y ago
  The main critique in the video is related to the hardware, specifically the lack of LIDAR.
  - redox99 2y ago
    It's just like Mark Robers video[1], where he makes all these wild claims that you can't solve X issue without LIDAR and tests an old version of Autopilot. When another user correctly tests with the latest hardware and software, it passes the test[2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&pp=ygUQbWFyayByb2JlciBsaWRhcg%3D%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&pp=ygUQbWFyayByb... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZhIsGFL6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZhIsGFL6g
DwnVoteHoneyPot 2y ago
FortNine videos are my favorite videos on YouTube. You're short changing them by just leaving the link without a description or title. The video title is "Tesla Autopilot Crashes into Motorcycle Riders - Why?" The amazing part is the one guy who created this video covered all insightful comments here in HN in one concise video 2 years ago.

redox99 2y ago

Considering how much FSD has improved in the last few months, a 2 year old video is not relevant.

only-one1701 2y ago
Not relevant to what? Those people are still dead.
- redox99 2y ago
  The shortcomings of 2 year old software is not relevant, because that's not what the cars run now.
  - jcranmer 2y ago
    What evidence do you have that Tesla has meaningfully improved the software to fix the referenced issues since then?
    - redox99 2y ago
      Evidence is a strong word. But based on personal driving, other drivers comments, and seeing tests by channels like Dirty Tesla and Chuck Cook, you can tell the difference between current FSD v13, and what we had 2 years ago (v10 or v11) is absolutely gigantic.
  - tyree731 2y ago
    By this argument, since Tesla regularly updates the software, no one can discuss the weaknesses in their self driving software.
    - redox99 2y ago
      I never said that. Just discuss the current version or at least something recent (any v13 version).
      - ModernMech 2y ago
        Yeah but you see this goalpost moving all the time when talking Tesla. Every time someone says something is wrong, people will say "But what about the latest version" or "this will be fixed in the next version". Meanwhile, you can still find video on YouTube of cars on the latest version veering into oncoming traffic.
- janice1999 2y ago
  Other peoples lives are a sacrifice some drivers alpha testing their cars firmware are willing to make.
outside1234 2y ago
Just amazing to me how blind people are to how much of a fraud Musk is
- bdangubic 2y ago
  cause it is a cult following, not blindness…
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dharmab 2y ago
The main critique in the video is related to the hardware, specifically the lack of LIDAR.
- redox99 2y ago
  It's just like Mark Robers video[1], where he makes all these wild claims that you can't solve X issue without LIDAR and tests an old version of Autopilot. When another user correctly tests with the latest hardware and software, it passes the test[2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&pp=ygUQbWFyayByb2JlciBsaWRhcg%3D%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&pp=ygUQbWFyayByb... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZhIsGFL6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZhIsGFL6g

DwnVoteHoneyPot 2y ago

FortNine videos are my favorite videos on YouTube. You're short changing them by just leaving the link without a description or title. The video title is "Tesla Autopilot Crashes into Motorcycle Riders - Why?" The amazing part is the one guy who created this video covered all insightful comments here in HN in one concise video 2 years ago.