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I have a feeling you were waiting to say that for a while. :D Glad to make your day. You are welcome. Ultimately we all end up reading the manual. I'd still p

I have a feeling you were waiting to say that for a while. :D Glad to make your day. You are welcome. Ultimately we all end up reading the manual. I'd still prefer if I didn't have to remember how a certain C stdlib function works vs. what seems intuitive. But that's a lost cause with a lot of people. They'll happily point out how "intuitive" differs among different groups of people and all that, merrily missing the point on purpose. Oh well. At least I found out without locking my self out of my servers.

johnisgood 2y ago
> Ultimately we all end up reading the manual. I'd still prefer if I didn't have to remember how a certain C stdlib function works vs. what seems intuitive. Intuitive is highly subjective, it might be intuitive to you, but not for others, and vice versa, and it is part of the job to read the "manual instruction". > But that's a lost cause with a lot of people. They'll happily point out how "intuitive" differs among different groups of people and all that, merrily missing the point on purpose What is your point? Are you arguing against documentation? You told me you are not averse to reading the documentation, yet you are complaining about it and bringing "intuition" into this. I am confused. Could you clarify your point?
- pdimitar 2y ago
  That documentation is not sacred texts so yes I am arguing against it. My point is that intuitive is as not as subjective as you make it out to be. Which is partially reinforced by a lot of software where "last one wins" is the policy. This example here sticks out like a sore thumb. No point pursuing however because you seem hellbent on defending tradition which is something that tires and bores me. Just agree to disagree, move on.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    Yeah, you claimed that people are not averse to reading documentation, and now you, yourself, are trying to argue against documentation. Moving on.
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      I explained why (and no it's not "avoiding", it's "prioritizing" actually) but you had to "win", did you? Taking a note of your username. I'll go out of my way to avoid you. Bye.
      - johnisgood 2y ago
        I am not winning and it is not a competition. Please do, I am the guy who writes and reads documentation.

johnisgood 2y ago

> Ultimately we all end up reading the manual. I'd still prefer if I didn't have to remember how a certain C stdlib function works vs. what seems intuitive. Intuitive is highly subjective, it might be intuitive to you, but not for others, and vice versa, and it is part of the job to read the "manual instruction". > But that's a lost cause with a lot of people. They'll happily point out how "intuitive" differs among different groups of people and all that, merrily missing the point on purpose What is your point? Are you arguing against documentation? You told me you are not averse to reading the documentation, yet you are complaining about it and bringing "intuition" into this. I am confused. Could you clarify your point?

pdimitar 2y ago
That documentation is not sacred texts so yes I am arguing against it. My point is that intuitive is as not as subjective as you make it out to be. Which is partially reinforced by a lot of software where "last one wins" is the policy. This example here sticks out like a sore thumb. No point pursuing however because you seem hellbent on defending tradition which is something that tires and bores me. Just agree to disagree, move on.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  Yeah, you claimed that people are not averse to reading documentation, and now you, yourself, are trying to argue against documentation. Moving on.
  - pdimitar 2y ago
    I explained why (and no it's not "avoiding", it's "prioritizing" actually) but you had to "win", did you? Taking a note of your username. I'll go out of my way to avoid you. Bye.
    - johnisgood 2y ago
      I am not winning and it is not a competition. Please do, I am the guy who writes and reads documentation.