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> Americans are spending money at restaurants as much as ever — but really, they are buying food made by a restaurant and eating it somewhere else. Takeout and

> Americans are spending money at restaurants as much as ever — but really, they are buying food made by a restaurant and eating it somewhere else. Takeout and delivery apps are now ingrained habits. Drive-throughs are going strong. Random snacks and little treats are obsolescing breakfast, lunch and dinner, according to multiple analysts. I admittedly lost the patience to sit there and wait instead of doing something else, having the food delivered, and immediately eating upon starting the process. Eating at a restaurant seems like a subpar experience now compared to my own table. It isn’t just me. Everyone from my grandparents to my friend groups is increasingly takeout and delivery driven.

stock_toaster 2y ago
> Eating at a restaurant seems like a subpar experience now compared to my own table. Also most midrange restaurants I have been to lately are just so _loud_. Not sure if it is all the hard surfaces that are so popular, or if people just have less social awareness anymore and yap away at such high volumes. Seems wild. I’d rather just make something at home, hit up a good food truck, or go somewhere fancy.
- tom89999 2y ago
  Look how many people wear headphones nowadays. Many of them at high volumes. Try to watch a movie and to listen to conversations in that movie. I am constantly using the remote to turn down loud explosions and amp up the very silent speakers. Its a problem of the studios and movie makers, not everybody has or wants a 7.1 sound system. The younger generation also is more short-sighted than ever. Smartphone and screen time is increasing. Also, loud music increases thirst, which is good for the owner. Another aspect is waking the fight mode in humans so the waiters are more vigilant after their night out the day before... Most of them are young uni students, earning some cash for partying.
- pglevy 2y ago
  It's also loud because everyone is playing sound out of their device speakers, especially young parents who set up mini tablet theaters as soon as they sit down at the table. I don't understand why restaurants allow it. Why would I pay more for that ambiance?
- hackingonempty 2y ago
  All of the above. Most importantly, restaurant owners associate quiet with old and dead restaurants so they deliberately make things loud. They play music at loud levels which requires people to raise their voice. They prefer the look of hard surfaces and its certainly cheaper to leave wood, brick, and concrete exposed than to cover them up with material. Tablecloths impose ongoing costs and may not be in line with the ambiance the owners are going for.
- dagw 2y ago
  hit up a good food truck, or go somewhere fancy. I agree it seems the whole middle part of the of restaurant market is terrible. I can think of several places where I'm happy to pay $15-20 for a meal and several places where I'm happy to pay $100+, but hardly anywhere in the $30-40 range where I feel I'm getting value for money.
gusgus01 2y ago
For the restaurants mentioned in the article, I fully agree. Especially because you're not losing much quality. A pizza hut pizza will be just as bad at a pizza hut as it will be 15 minutes later at home or in a park. The same goes for the mostly deep fried or microwaved food at Applebee's or a Wing Joint. But I will still opt to eat in at nicer establishments, where I'm paying for quality and don't want to suffer any lose of it. A nice plus is they usually have a nice atmosphere and a selection of cocktails/cocktails that I wouldn't make at home.

stock_toaster 2y ago

> Eating at a restaurant seems like a subpar experience now compared to my own table. Also most midrange restaurants I have been to lately are just so _loud_. Not sure if it is all the hard surfaces that are so popular, or if people just have less social awareness anymore and yap away at such high volumes. Seems wild. I’d rather just make something at home, hit up a good food truck, or go somewhere fancy.

tom89999 2y ago
Look how many people wear headphones nowadays. Many of them at high volumes. Try to watch a movie and to listen to conversations in that movie. I am constantly using the remote to turn down loud explosions and amp up the very silent speakers. Its a problem of the studios and movie makers, not everybody has or wants a 7.1 sound system. The younger generation also is more short-sighted than ever. Smartphone and screen time is increasing. Also, loud music increases thirst, which is good for the owner. Another aspect is waking the fight mode in humans so the waiters are more vigilant after their night out the day before... Most of them are young uni students, earning some cash for partying.
pglevy 2y ago
It's also loud because everyone is playing sound out of their device speakers, especially young parents who set up mini tablet theaters as soon as they sit down at the table. I don't understand why restaurants allow it. Why would I pay more for that ambiance?
hackingonempty 2y ago
All of the above. Most importantly, restaurant owners associate quiet with old and dead restaurants so they deliberately make things loud. They play music at loud levels which requires people to raise their voice. They prefer the look of hard surfaces and its certainly cheaper to leave wood, brick, and concrete exposed than to cover them up with material. Tablecloths impose ongoing costs and may not be in line with the ambiance the owners are going for.
dagw 2y ago
hit up a good food truck, or go somewhere fancy. I agree it seems the whole middle part of the of restaurant market is terrible. I can think of several places where I'm happy to pay $15-20 for a meal and several places where I'm happy to pay $100+, but hardly anywhere in the $30-40 range where I feel I'm getting value for money.

gusgus01 2y ago

For the restaurants mentioned in the article, I fully agree. Especially because you're not losing much quality. A pizza hut pizza will be just as bad at a pizza hut as it will be 15 minutes later at home or in a park. The same goes for the mostly deep fried or microwaved food at Applebee's or a Wing Joint. But I will still opt to eat in at nicer establishments, where I'm paying for quality and don't want to suffer any lose of it. A nice plus is they usually have a nice atmosphere and a selection of cocktails/cocktails that I wouldn't make at home.