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I'm all for resources for people looking for alternatives, but I think there are some flaws with the way this is presented. The whole first section is a bunch
by dangus 2y ago
I'm all for resources for people looking for alternatives, but I think there are some flaws with the way this is presented.
The whole first section is a bunch of scary stuff that in the end is not really a great way to select products, at least in my personal opinion. If you are worried about nation-state spying you aren't going to use any cloud services, and you shouldn't take a company's location as any sort of reasonable way to protect yourself if you are truly on that level of tin foil hat.
> If the company has servers, offices, or employees in the US, it can be legally forced to hand over your data to the US government.
Yeah, including many of the alternatives that are on this list.*
I also think a lot of the alternatives have their own flaws.
- Alternatives that are listed with "Strong privacy laws, GDPR applies." Well, the GDPR applies to any user in the EU using a product made by a US-based tech company. So choosing a company solely for GDPR coverage isn't really a particularly good reason to choose it.
- Alternatives like Opera and Deepseek have offices in China which for many people concerned about state surveillance isn't exactly an upgrade.
- Some alternatives on the list have US servers and US ownership, like Tidal (owned by Block (Square), a US company).
- DaSHacka 2y agoNone of this really matters when people are simply switching out of emotional hysteria without logical reason. Give it a couple years, and no one will even remember this niche movement to move away from US-based services, with all of these websites and github repos left unmaintained and abandoned.
- em-bee 2y agothe GDPR applies to any user in the EU using a product made by a US-based tech company while that is true, it is questionable whether it can be enforced. also it is a problem for EU businesses using such services because it puts them at risk of being in violation of the GDPR. and as as a EU citizen not actually living in the EU i am interested in using EU based services because there the protection applies to everyone.