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I was living in an NYC apartment when the plague hit. Every day an ambulance would come up to our front door, and wheel away another one of my neighbors, feet

by rhelz 2y ago

I was living in an NYC apartment when the plague hit. Every day an ambulance would come up to our front door, and wheel away another one of my neighbors, feet first, never to be seen again. Then it was TWO ambulances a day. I will not abide being accused of "groupthink" by people who somehow convinced themselves that wearing a mask was useless during a plague which was spread from person to person by airborne particles of mucus. I saw with my own eyes what a big difference it made when people started wearing masks and getting vaccinated. The ambulances stopped coming to my front door. Enough of this endless spreading of propaganda-fu. Look at where it has gotten us. How much more damage to our government, economy, and civil society do you think we can take?

poorts 2y ago
Your experience seems statistically unlikely
- poorts 2y ago
  There were around 51000 deaths in New York from March 2020 to March 2021. For a population of 8.258 million that gives a rate of one death per day per 59101 people. The largest apartment building I found in NYC is London Terrace with 1700 apartments which would need 35 people per apartment to give 59101 people. Deaths were presumably skewed towards the oldest and sickest, and probably correlated with poverty, so if you stayed in a lower-income apartment building with a lot of old people who were likely close to death, then it could be 1 or 2 ambulances per day to take people away "never to be seen again", but it seems improbable. I stay in a European country which isn't particularly known for being healthy, and I don't know anyone who died of or even with covid. I felt that there was some terrible science coming from all directions in the pandemic years, but to me some of the worst propaganda-fu was coming from the government and traditional media.
  - rhelz 2y ago
    What you are missing in your analysis is that New Yorkers don’t just let stuff like this happen for weeks and weeks. We social distanced, we wore our masks, and the ambulances stopped coming. It’s not like ambulances came every day for a year and a half—no we fixed the problem and stood slack-jawed while the rest fo the country just let people keep dying.
    - poorts 2y ago
      At the peak there were around 600 deaths per day, I believe a lot of those were in care homes, but even if not that's less than 1 in 12000 people per day, so 1 or 2 ambulances per day to a single apartment building still feels like an exaggeration to me, almost like propaganda... I also guess it would be hard to accredit anything to the vaccines as you originally asserted, if it was actually all down to plucky New Yorkers mask wearing and social distancing https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109728/coronavirus-deaths-by-date-new-york-city/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109728/coronavirus-deat...

by rhelz 2y ago

poorts 2y ago

Your experience seems statistically unlikely

poorts 2y ago
There were around 51000 deaths in New York from March 2020 to March 2021. For a population of 8.258 million that gives a rate of one death per day per 59101 people. The largest apartment building I found in NYC is London Terrace with 1700 apartments which would need 35 people per apartment to give 59101 people. Deaths were presumably skewed towards the oldest and sickest, and probably correlated with poverty, so if you stayed in a lower-income apartment building with a lot of old people who were likely close to death, then it could be 1 or 2 ambulances per day to take people away "never to be seen again", but it seems improbable. I stay in a European country which isn't particularly known for being healthy, and I don't know anyone who died of or even with covid. I felt that there was some terrible science coming from all directions in the pandemic years, but to me some of the worst propaganda-fu was coming from the government and traditional media.
- rhelz 2y ago
  What you are missing in your analysis is that New Yorkers don’t just let stuff like this happen for weeks and weeks. We social distanced, we wore our masks, and the ambulances stopped coming. It’s not like ambulances came every day for a year and a half—no we fixed the problem and stood slack-jawed while the rest fo the country just let people keep dying.
  - poorts 2y ago
    At the peak there were around 600 deaths per day, I believe a lot of those were in care homes, but even if not that's less than 1 in 12000 people per day, so 1 or 2 ambulances per day to a single apartment building still feels like an exaggeration to me, almost like propaganda... I also guess it would be hard to accredit anything to the vaccines as you originally asserted, if it was actually all down to plucky New Yorkers mask wearing and social distancing https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109728/coronavirus-deaths-by-date-new-york-city/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109728/coronavirus-deat...