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> Based on that prediction, the top-of-the-line iPhone 16 Pro Max model with 1TB of storage could rise from $1,599 to nearly $2,300 in the U.S., should Apple ac
by rayiner 2y ago
> Based on that prediction, the top-of-the-line iPhone 16 Pro Max model with 1TB of storage could rise from $1,599 to nearly $2,300 in the U.S., should Apple actually follow through with raising prices by 43% to offset the cost of tariffs.
That… seems fine? An iPhone 16 Pro Max with 1TB is 1,979 euro on the French Apple store, or about $2,169. Somehow the French manage?
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoAnd the French don’t generally have a friend who can grab a phone for them from Canada or Mexico.
- petre 2y agoProbably why Apple isn't as popular in the EU: Europeans buy Samsung, which has phones for 150€, no need to shell out 800 or 1000€.
- subscribed 2y agoLOL, no, Android flagships, usually more expensive than most expensive iPhones, are more popular because people like them more. The fact 150€ phone can be purchased doesn't mean it has a majority of the market
- petre 2y agoActually they have a Gauss bell distribution 30% cheap phones, 30% mid tier, 30% flagships. But Apple's regular phones are priced as others' flagships, >800€ per unit. https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/europe-smartphone-market-q4-2024 https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/europe-smartphone-market-q4...
- apawloski 2y agoYou're currently in the "Yes everything is going to be more expensive but it won't be THAT bad" stage. How will you justify a recession when it comes? Or is that acceptable too because it also hurts the "laptop class" in addition to working class Americans?
- rayiner 2y agoYes, I think America’s addiction to disposable Chinese consumer products is a bad thing and it’s good for those things to be more expensive. I don’t know why you think “Chinese made products will become more expensive” is a dunk. Yeah, that’s the point. That was common knowledge when this stuff was being debated in the 1990s. The working class opposed free trade back then, fully understanding that the pitch for free trade was cheaper foreign made goods.
- apawloski 2y agoTo be clear, my point is that everything will be more expensive and that a recession is objectively bad for all but maybe the richest Americans.
- rayiner 2y agoJ.p. morgan predicts a 1.5% consumer price level increase this year from the tariffs. The 43% example in the article will be at the extreme high end. Recessions affect different people differently. The stock market boomed during the Obama recovery from 2008, and during Biden, but most people didn’t feel it so much. A financial recession would be borne mostly by the laptop class.
- apawloski 2y agoThis feels like a return to initial point. "yes, it is a recession, but it won't be THAT bad" >A financial recession would be borne mostly by the laptop class. This is where I think you're not living in reality. Recessions are bad for the middle and working classes. They eliminate jobs, deflate wages, and make important things unaffordable. And it really feels like it could have been avoided.
- rayiner 2y agoKicking the can down the road to avoid a recession—like Obama dis with quantitative easing or Biden did with massive deficit spending—hasn’t proven to be a good idea.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago'THe people will own nothing and be happy about it' used to what conservatives joked socialists/communists would bring to America for 70 years and up until last month. Now you promote it's merits. Totally not a cult.