Since you turned up one of the same sources as my other interlocutor, I'll refer you to my reply there at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43593671 https://

Since you turned up one of the same sources as my other interlocutor, I'll refer you to my reply there at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43593671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43593671