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Donald Trump is gods gift to China. Trump is serving the whole world to the Chinese on a platter.

by buyucu 2y ago

LinuxBender 2y ago
There is probably some truth in this but China have their own major obstacles to overcome that this won't help much with. They have demographic challenges they needed to solve many decades ago and are basically running out of workers. In my opinion they would have to open the doors to global immigration and give people really good incentives to do this. I have no idea what those incentives would have to be.
wslh 2y ago
If this were a science fiction story, I'd say Elon Musk activated secret Neuralink[1] features implanted in Trump's brain, all in service of an even more secretive society with a hidden agenda. The features were designed specifically for subjects with the optimal cognitive traits. [1] https://neuralink.com/ https://neuralink.com/
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Elon Musk activated secret Neuralink Musk has been god’s gift to Beijing moreso than Trump. He’s fundamentally compromised on China. And he’s going on drug-fuelled binges of unpopular exercises of illegal executive authority through our republic’s institutions. He’s a walking global billboard for China’s political system, which has shown itself perhaps uniquely capable of disciplining its billionaires.
  - rchaud 2y ago
    Musk's antics (and those of Bezos and other subsidy enjoyers) have also legitimized the Chinese approach to state subsidies. They're for the most part financing things that advance the whole nation's interests, not just the delusional follies of a connected few.
rchaud 2y ago
That makes it sound like the world being in America's pocket would have been a better outcome. America in the 21st century has been running on the fumes of its achievements post-WWII. China has been building entire cities' worth of infrastructure domestically and internationally, deepening trade links and political influence. America wasn't even willing to rebuild New Orleans, let alone Afghanistan and Iraq. That hasn't escaped the attention of the rest of the world. In the era following the Great Recession, it has been mired in comical levels of political disunity, where investing in public infrastructure like housing, healthcare and education is seen as a 'handout' to the 'undeserving'. In no other nation-state on earth would somebody like Musk be provided with taxpayer funds to derail plans for high-speed trains by pursuing a non-working vanity project that appeared to be inspired by a Simpsons episode about a charismatic charlatan.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > In no other nation-state on earth would somebody like Musk be provided with taxpayer funds to derail plans for high-speed trains by pursuing a non-working vanity project With you until this. China has built its fair share of nonsense vanity infrastructure to the point of entire cities. The difference isn’t the tendency to fever dream. It’s that China actually gets around to the building of it. Both in controlling its billionaires and suppressing NIMBYism, its model looks like an attractive one for developing countries to replicate (versus the American or European models).
  - rchaud 2y ago
    Over-construction is not uncommon during boom times. It's not a problem either: the buildings may be empty temporarily, but once prices adjust, they will be occupied and in use. China needs new cities to distribute their population more evenly geographically, so some level of over-capacity is planned for. Contrast that to the US, where housing economics are completely messed up due to zoning restrictions, Airbnb-only properties, immigration crackdowns causing labour shortages, and a system that allows cash-rich investment funds to hoard large amount of the supply.
    - 2y ago

Donald Trump is gods gift to China. Trump is serving the whole world to the Chinese on a platter.

by buyucu 2y ago

Donald Trump is gods gift to China. Trump is serving the whole world to the Chinese on a platter.

There is probably some truth in this but China have their own major obstacles to overcome that this won't help much with. They have demographic challenges they needed to solve many decades ago and are basically running out of workers. In my opinion they would have to open the doors to global immigration and give people really good incentives to do this. I have no idea what those incentives would have to be.

wslh 2y ago

If this were a science fiction story, I'd say Elon Musk activated secret Neuralink[1] features implanted in Trump's brain, all in service of an even more secretive society with a hidden agenda. The features were designed specifically for subjects with the optimal cognitive traits. [1] https://neuralink.com/ https://neuralink.com/

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Elon Musk activated secret Neuralink Musk has been god’s gift to Beijing moreso than Trump. He’s fundamentally compromised on China. And he’s going on drug-fuelled binges of unpopular exercises of illegal executive authority through our republic’s institutions. He’s a walking global billboard for China’s political system, which has shown itself perhaps uniquely capable of disciplining its billionaires.
- rchaud 2y ago
  Musk's antics (and those of Bezos and other subsidy enjoyers) have also legitimized the Chinese approach to state subsidies. They're for the most part financing things that advance the whole nation's interests, not just the delusional follies of a connected few.

rchaud 2y ago

That makes it sound like the world being in America's pocket would have been a better outcome. America in the 21st century has been running on the fumes of its achievements post-WWII. China has been building entire cities' worth of infrastructure domestically and internationally, deepening trade links and political influence. America wasn't even willing to rebuild New Orleans, let alone Afghanistan and Iraq. That hasn't escaped the attention of the rest of the world. In the era following the Great Recession, it has been mired in comical levels of political disunity, where investing in public infrastructure like housing, healthcare and education is seen as a 'handout' to the 'undeserving'. In no other nation-state on earth would somebody like Musk be provided with taxpayer funds to derail plans for high-speed trains by pursuing a non-working vanity project that appeared to be inspired by a Simpsons episode about a charismatic charlatan.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> In no other nation-state on earth would somebody like Musk be provided with taxpayer funds to derail plans for high-speed trains by pursuing a non-working vanity project With you until this. China has built its fair share of nonsense vanity infrastructure to the point of entire cities. The difference isn’t the tendency to fever dream. It’s that China actually gets around to the building of it. Both in controlling its billionaires and suppressing NIMBYism, its model looks like an attractive one for developing countries to replicate (versus the American or European models).
- rchaud 2y ago
  Over-construction is not uncommon during boom times. It's not a problem either: the buildings may be empty temporarily, but once prices adjust, they will be occupied and in use. China needs new cities to distribute their population more evenly geographically, so some level of over-capacity is planned for. Contrast that to the US, where housing economics are completely messed up due to zoning restrictions, Airbnb-only properties, immigration crackdowns causing labour shortages, and a system that allows cash-rich investment funds to hoard large amount of the supply.
  - 2y ago