The thing missed in all these arguments is a large variety in life expectancy between states, and demographic controls. The states all have more or less the sam

The thing missed in all these arguments is a large variety in life expectancy between states, and demographic controls. The states all have more or less the same problems and non problems with their healthcare system, so it cannot really explain that. And I'm pretty sure levels of car dependence won't explain a large part of it either since most states are largely car dependent. Iirc (phone post) japanese Americans have higher life expectancy than Japanese, or at least in the ballpark. Maybe some cultures/lifestyles, like whatever they are doing in the South, just suck. OTOH, maybe we should allow people to make choices. I'm pretty sure I'd live longer if I did interval sprints instead of reading HN, but that's a tradeoff I am willing to make.