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Good talk. Your method of writing down what the worst case scenario falls in line with what is known as cognitive-behavioral therapy, which is the recommended m
by niels_olson 14y ago
Good talk. Your method of writing down what the worst case scenario falls in line with what is known as cognitive-behavioral therapy, which is the recommended method of working through mild-to-moderate depressive episodes.
In fact, as a physician observing the HN community, I have acquired a folder of bookmarks, "Depression in Entrepreneurs", mainly centered around Andrews and Thomson's analytic-rheumination hypothesis, which highlights exactly that component of CBT as the cornerstone of successful coping: identify the problems, the worst possible outcomes, prioritize, and start working through them.
My brief summary of the AR hypothesis
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Your hippocampus, home of working memory, gets overwhelmed with all the problems. Something like this:
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It's still crashing!? Wait, I have that widget sitting in /usr/bin still. I'm so hungry. Maybe I should take ritalin, I wouldn't be hungry. My girlfriend is totally pissed because I haven't taken her out in forever. I have to make payroll, but I can't quite do that unless I skip some meals, I can't tell Mr Investor that I can't go to lunch, because I need money. I can't talk to my girlfriend about Investor's lunch because it will just remind her .... shit, was that in /usr/bin or /sbin. Payroll. Lunch. LUNCH! I'M LATE FOR LUNCH WITH MR INVESTOR! AND THE SITE IS DOWN!!!! GREP! WHY DID I CHOOSE BSD!
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So, CBT is a hack, which shunts some of that linguistic processing over to the only other area that does linguistic processing: Broca's area. But you need to verbalize to activate Broca's area. So you need to talk to someone. But not someone who's got a dog in the fight, not your girlfriend, not Mr Investor, not employee #1, not your business partner. Because then you'd just be doubling the load on your hippocampus again. So, talk to a counselor, priest, somebody who doesn't have a dog in the fight. Explicitly enumerate your problems, worst case scenarios, and some branches and sequels.
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Here's the current contents of that folder, if anyone wants them...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2734449/pdf/nihms129978.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2734449/pdf/nihm...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/opinion/sunday/how-depressed-people-use-the-internet.html?_r=1&hp http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/opinion/sunday/how-depress...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions-evolutionary http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/magazine/28depression-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/magazine/28depression-t.ht...
http://muddylemon.com/2011/05/depression-burn-out-and-writing-code/ http://muddylemon.com/2011/05/depression-burn-out-and-writin...
http://blog.asmartbear.com/burn-out.html http://blog.asmartbear.com/burn-out.html
and newly added: https://elasticsales.com/blog/2012/08/03/entrepreneurial-depression-happiness/ https://elasticsales.com/blog/2012/08/03/entrepreneurial-dep...
- HorizonXP 14y agoAnd this is why I had my first screening session for CBT today. Thank you for putting into words precisely what I was thinking.
- kyro 14y agoGreat description of CBT. For anyone who's not ready or can't afford to go to a CBT specialist, check out MoodGym - http://moodgym.anu.edu.au/welcome http://moodgym.anu.edu.au/welcome.
- bootload 14y ago"Andrews and Thomson's analytic-rheumination hypothesis... the cornerstone of successful coping: identify the problems, the worst possible outcomes, prioritize, and start working through them ... Explicitly enumerate your problems, worst case scenarios, and some branches and sequels..." This is the exact discovery/scenario process drilled into the planning phase of hikes over long distances and/or difficult terrain.
- name_taken 14y agoRisk analyst at PwC. This also sounds very similar to my role.